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Old 11-23-2013, 10:48 AM
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There can be honest reasons for placing a majority of bids with one seller and for retracting bids. As Adrian showed us, some people are more OCD than others.

When I was an active bidder, there were always a few sellers who I regularly checked on to see what the had-- because they always had good stuff and I trusted them. I'm sure a large percentage of my bids were with them.

I don't recall ever retracting a bid once. In fact, I don't know that I even knew I could retract. I may have assumed you couldn't do that.

My one good story is years back when Mastro had weekly auctions and you typed in your bids, I accidentally typed in $15,000 instead of $1,1500 with about ten minutes left. I didn't know what to do-- I wasn't planning on paying $15,000, but my bid wasn't raised so there was no issue.

I've never shilled, I've never ended an auction when there was one or more bids, but have ended early auctions where there were no bids. I felt it was always my right to end an auction where no one had placed the minimum bid.
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:57 AM
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There can be honest reasons for placing a majority of bids with one seller and for retracting bids. As Adrian showed us, some people are more OCD than others.
OCD is a legitimate reason, but no honest reason I can think of for a seller not blocking such bidders from their auctions. I too have accidentally added an extra '0' to a bid, but I don't recall ever retracting one, even for a legitimate mistake.

Some hobbyists can live in their own skin with what others would consider to be huge integrity problems. Those same people are amazed when the rest of us consider them to be lacking in integrity. Tough luck - they can't blame us for trying to help maintain a higher level of integrity in our hobby through threads like this. The idea that we basically have to keep our mouth shut unless we can prove guilt in a court of law, is absurd.

Ebay has found a loophole where they think they can legally allow cheating by manipulating their rules, thus increasing their profits. For now it's working, but it's wrong, and our best recourse is this forum...public exposure.
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:32 AM
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It's not everyday that I agree w/Scott F...but I totally...agree with his last post!!!!
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It's not everyday that I agree w/Scott F...but I totally...agree with his last post!!!!
Thanks for admitting that - I have quoted you, just in case I need to use it in my internet discussion forum resume.
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Old 11-23-2013, 12:22 PM
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When I see news stories about unethical Enron-types who will do anything to further pad their 8 figure bank accounts, I say "There are worse things than being poor."

I believe most people are honest and fair and have no desire to cheat or trick others out of money. I believe that for most people who find on the sidewalk a wallet with fifty bucks in it, they will try and return it whole to the owner.

I also find most teenagers these days to be polite.

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Old 11-23-2013, 12:11 PM
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and our best recourse is this forum...public exposure.
You just summed it all up for me in one sentence.

It is not yours, mine or our only recourse.

The problem is that everyone on these threads whole heartedly believes it is.

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You just summed it all up for me in one sentence.

It is not yours, mine or our only recourse.

The problem is that everyone on these threads whole heartedly believes it is.

Kevin
This is clearly the dumbest guy on Net 54 -- and that says a lot. He shows up a month ago and has convinced himself that the only things being done to stop fraud in the hobby are what exists on this board. He reads nothing, knows nothing, makes no effort to learn about anything -- and does all that he can to stop any discourse about fraud here -- so that he can work in private on some insane 'initiatives' that we all know are the figments of his imagination.

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This is clearly the dumbest guy on Net 54 -- and that says a lot. He shows up a month ago and has convinced himself that the only things being done to stop fraud in the hobby are what exists on this board. He reads nothing, knows nothing, makes no effort to learn about anything -- and does all that he can to stop any discourse about fraud here -- so that he can work in private on some insane 'initiatives' that we all know are the figments of his imagination.
Damn Jeff does this mean I lost my title? I thought I was the dumbest…guess I’m going to have to up my game these are tough times some serious competition.
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