1926 Spalding Champions Ruth on ebay?

[GasHouseGang]

If that "thing" is actually graded by PSA, it should say Hand-Cut on the label and only be labeled as authentic. Why is it some items that are hand-cut they will give a grade to and others they won't? It makes no sense.

[glynparson]

its the implementation that is screwed up. Hand cut cards are only to be graded if the defined border is completely present. For cards with out a border they must meet the industry standard size for the issue. The problem is they often stray and end up grading some cards with out all of the border present or a similar issue which helps lead to a lot of confusion. Also the card needed to be only issued or predominantly issued in hand cut format.

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by glynparson

its the implementation that is screwed up. Hand cut cards are only to be graded if the defined border is completely present. For cards with out a border they must meet the industry standard size for the issue. The problem is they often stray and end up grading some cards with out all of the border present or a similar issue which helps lead to a lot of confusion. Also the card needed to be only issued or predominantly issued in hand cut format.

Ok, I could buy that Glyn. If PSA grades a Bazooka card cut from a box that was meant to be a card, fine give it a grade if the entire boarder shows. But grading a cut from a magazine is silly.

[glynparson]

It is garbage. However if their is a demand for it then I really don't mind them doing it. They should NEVER include in card registry sets though as they are not cards.

[ctownboy]

Venting while on pain meds not a good idea. Plus, I didn't have my full name in the post.

David Smith

[ctownboy]

See above post.

David

[ullmandds]

David...I agree this is total CRAP...but it is PSA and they are whore-ish!

As many mistakes as PSA already mistakes...I can't imagine it being any easier grading magazine cutouts...how can they possibly be aware of all the vintage magazines/yearbooks/scorecards...or will they just stick to sporting news?

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

Ok, I could buy that Glyn. If PSA grades a Bazooka card cut from a box that was meant to be a card, fine give it a grade if the entire boarder shows. But grading a cut from a magazine is silly.

Unless the item was meant to be a card to be removed from the publication; then I can see slabbing it just like a strip card.

[nolemmings]

For those of you interested, you can try and outbid the $500 opener on that '66 Sporting News Ryan--you'll need it for the registry:

http://www.gregbussineauauctions.com...ventoryid=8659

According to the PSA site there are only 5 graded, remarkably all 9s (gosh, whoever cut those out of that magazine/newspaper 47 years ago sure knew what they were doing and had the foresight to keep them pristine). Hard to think any more will ever surface either. Me, I'm holding out for the High School Yearbook picture in PSA 9--the 10th grade pic is the toughest of the four, and is rarely found in high grade because of the usual marks from where his buddies wrote their sophomoric comments.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

For those of you interested, you can try and outbid the $500 opener on that '66 Sporting News Ryan--you'll need it for the registry:

http://www.gregbussineauauctions.com...ventoryid=8659

According to the PSA site there are only 5 graded, remarkably all 9s (gosh, whoever cut those out of that magazine/newspaper 47 years ago sure knew what they were doing and had the foresight to keep them pristine). Hard to think any more will ever surface either. Me, I'm holding out for the High School Yearbook picture in PSA 9--the 10th grade pic is the toughest of the four, and is rarely found in high grade because of the usual marks from where his buddies wrote their sophomoric comments.

Amazingly, that thing has a bid. Might need to go out and buy some old magazines and newspapers now...

[ctownboy]

For Pete Ullman,

I don't remember exactly what I wrote earlier but it went something like this:

I have only one graded card in my collection so graded cards are obviously NOT my thing. However, if PSA is starting to grade pictures cut out of magazines then I think it is ridiculous and just shows how greedy they are and how they are falling (failing) in credibility.

I was under the impression that TPG companies were in existence to AUTHENTICATE actual cards. If they are/were going to authenticate (or grade) an entire complete magazine I have no problem with that. But grading a picture cut out of that magazine (not an actual insert), then that is NUTS!!!!

Does that mean I can draw a picture of Babe Ruth with a Crayon and they will grade that too? How about if I cut it in half, can I have both pieces graded?

Heck, why stop there? Why not grade reprint cards? If it doesn't stop there then can I just take a picture of or photocopy a reprint card and send it in for grading?

I think I could make a bundle if that were to happen. I could just get a T 206 Wagner reprint, scan it on my scanner, print it out, cut it out and send it in for grading.

No, my impression was that TPG's were in existence to authenticate REAL CARDS!!!! However, if they are going to grade pictures cut out of magazines or newspapers but NOT grade REAL CARDS that might be trimmed, hand cut, recolored or somehow otherwise damaged, defaced or altered then what is the purpose of TPG's?

Also, if a TPG is going to grade cut outs of magazines, WHY would any serious collector want to do business with that company? I have a T 206 Cobb bat off shoulder (as an example). Why would I want to send that card in to get graded when the same person who grades my card might also be grading a picture cut out of a magazine.

The two might have been made in the same year HOWEVER the picture might have just been cut out of the magazine last week. Why should it get graded a 9 or 10 when if I trimmed my Cobb to look better it either wouldn't get graded or get an "A" for authentic?

I think this whole thing is just nuts if it is really happening and I have to question a company that does this and people who continue to do business with that company.

David Smith

Yes, that is my real name.

[steve B]

I think most companies will grade reprints as long as they're commercially made and sent in as reprints. I've seen a few Wagner reprints graded.

No that Grading a reprint makes much sense.

Grading magazine cutouts is just silly.

Now where are those 1983 Boston Herald sox stamp cutouts I kept?

Steve B