Printer's Scrap?

[ALR-bishop]

[Exhibitman]

Wow, Al, if you ever want to part with that 1958 Mathews, LMK. Great stuff. What is it with that Nash, I have one of those too.

[steve B]

There's a lot of misprints around, some scrap, some just poor QC.

The misprints like the water mark on the Simmons and Fielder aren't common, but are pretty much one time only things that got through.
Missing colors are closer to scrap, but a lot of them seem to have also been released.

After the early 80's a bunch of stuff started getting out of the printers that would usually be destroyed.

There's the 79 Topps with 78 backs. I think they were a dump find. Originally sold in strips most have been cut into single cards.
I don't have one handy, but there are also a few with Mork and Mindy sticker fronts and baseball backs. But not stickers, printed on cardstock.

Plus a lot of odd setup sheets got out and again most were cut into singles.
Here's one.


Some stuff got out from earlier too. I have a couple 60's football cards with a color or two very far out of register, like 3/8-1/2 an inch.

In the 78-79 period Topps also used up some sheets that were either setup sheets or simply overruns by printing Bazooka boxes on the "front" leaving card backs inside. I have 78 baseball, and Black Hole, both bought in star market when new.

I really need to scan a bunch of stuff............

Steve B

[steve B]

I forgot to mention that the reason a lot of scrap left the printers back then was that once was trash they'd have to pay to have hauled away was now something a clever employee could sell to card shops.

I saw two sheets cut up that I'd have loved to have bought, but the cost was just way too high. The first was an 82 Topps make ready sheet with a corner torn off and the card printed over the torn area.
Tearing off the corner was how the press operator typically marked the last makeready sheet before the stack of production stuff.

The other was a special sheet of just stars, usually in panels of 3. Topps offered cards by mail in 84, something like send in wrappers and some money for any 10 cards. designed to let people finish sets affordably, it ended with the expected run on stars. So special sheets were printed to cover the demand. Once in a while a panel will come up.

Steve B

[brob28]

Thanks guys. Steve, that is the kind of stuff I was referring to. I should have been more clear in what I meant in that these cards or sheets were not intended to reach the general public but somehow did. This kind of thing is extremely popular in the pre war world side but I never hear much about it post war and was curious how much of it is out there.

Al, those poor registration '58's would be worth a fortune if they were T206's. It's interesting that desire for this type of thing seems to be pretty wide spread in particular with the T206 collectors, enough so that there are pretty high premiums paid for them but they seem to be more a curiosity on the post war side. Of course, when making this statement I'm not referring to examples like the missing "A" Herrera.

[aelefson]

I have one. It is a 1967 Topps Tom Kelley, but it is hard to tell that from the front! The first scan shows the card right side up, the next one, upside down, and the final one shows the normal reverse.

Alan

[brob28]

Very cool Alan. Do you remember where you picked it up?

[Exhibitman]

I have a 67 like that as well. Pretty dramatic stuff when the printer flips the sheet between color runs



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[tedzan]

TED Z

[brob28]

Wow, love that last Billy Johnson Ted!

[tedzan]

Uncut 36-card sheet with missing colors














TED Z