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Old 11-12-2013, 10:17 PM
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Default Pretty sure.....

"It's real and its spectacular!"

To quote Jerry Seinfeld.

I'm still not 100% sure, so I will take it to the sports show next week. REA also mentioned putting it under a black light, unfortunately I do not have one. I'll ask around, or anyone know where to find a blacklight? And would the restoration affect the black light test?

The report from the Restoration Company sure sounds like the piece is real. It looks old & feels old. They state its old. They also mention in their report, "the paper was flaky and fragile due to its age". They also mention it had mildew on his leg, poor Joe.

It is dark though, so while it may be from 1913, the darkness makes it look more like its from his Black Sox days. Like Leon said it might benefit some more from some more restoration. I'll post some more pix over the next few days but you've pretty much seen it so not sure what it would add.

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Old 11-13-2013, 01:02 AM
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anyone know where to find a blacklight?
If you're in New York, you're welcome to bring it here, I have one.
Anyone who deals in art on the secondary market should have one - art dealer or local auction house.
If you want to purchase one, this is the supplier I used http://www.gainsboroughproducts.com/uvl_inspection.html

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Old 11-13-2013, 05:53 AM
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Thanks, good info.....learn something new everyday here. Maybe I can find a local art dealer who has one.

And no, I'm near Chicago, but thanks for the offer, appreciate it.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:04 PM
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Default ok so I gave it the blacklight test....and

I am more convinced of its authenticity.

The original seller was told by REA to take the piece and put a blacklight to it, if it fluoresces then its modern, if it does not, vintage.

Well I just now did that and the only parts that fluoresced where the touchups by the restoration company.

Like Bugsy said cheap restoration can hurt a piece, and I'm afraid they have done that here a little. But I can't blame the original seller of this, not sure who would fork out 4 digits to restore, when its worth 4 digits. Except for an advanced collector of course.

But as Leon said perhaps more restoration can fix and lighten it a bit.

Here's a pix under the blacklight next to the SCP catalog that just arrived, you can see how that fluoresces.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:22 PM
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Here are some additional pix not under the blacklight.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:32 PM
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:16 AM
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I'm glad you got it Paul! I had been hoping a member picked it up and it turn out to be good!

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Old 11-16-2013, 10:29 AM
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Like Bugsy said cheap restoration can hurt a piece, and I'm afraid they have done that here a little.
Paul

A good restorer should be able to properly restore the piece, hopefully including the restoration work just done. I think a piece like yours is worth it. Very nice piece.
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