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Old 11-10-2013, 05:19 PM
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The "P"s look like different fonts.
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Old 11-10-2013, 05:27 PM
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For the record...it doesn't look right to me...if I were looking for a magie error...I wouldn't touch it.

The ink bleeds? Really?

The N looks weird too?!!
Honestly...it looks like the whole caption was "erased" and re-added...Every single letter doesn't look right if u look at Brads comparison.

Wake up people!

And I mean this in the most positive...optimistic way!!!!

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Old 11-10-2013, 05:46 PM
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yes, the ink bleeds. the lettering in a delicate name is very open to looking different because of tiny lines, the amount of ink laid on it as it flies through the printing press.

do you think that if the 'erased it' and added it back so well on all of the other letters, they would botch only 2 of the letters? why wouldn't they just make all of the letters perfect?

and then that it would be completely missed by the graders on top of that?

someone that is so good, that they made everything else perfect, totally messed up 2 of them so badly that there are tons of people saying how bad it is?

not everything that has a minor issue with it is a conspiracy.

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Old 11-10-2013, 05:49 PM
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Kevin...if you can't look at brads comparison and can't see that every single letter is different...you are blind! You show me any 2 t206 captions close up...and the print will look the same.

This isn't even close!

This is a BIG problem...you'll see!

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Old 11-10-2013, 06:02 PM
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The card looks good to me.
They all look the same? Really? How about this one?


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Old 11-10-2013, 06:03 PM
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sure,

compare them now that they are the same size.

take into account the high rate the card would have been moving at as it flew through the press.

take into account moisture differerences that could have affected the cardboard on the surface etc as it sat around for 100 years, or if someone soaked it.

take into account scanners.

im not saying they are not identical. what im saying is that there are lots of plausible reasons why they are slightly different. all of those doesn't mean it is not real or untampered with.

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Old 11-10-2013, 06:06 PM
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maybe I'm going crazy...I just don't know anymore?!
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:44 PM
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Quick comparison of "odd" looking Magie example posted earlier and a Magee sale tracked back to painthistorian in 2012 (thanks to CardTarget!). Waiting for higher res scans of Magee.

Both the front and back are swapped, the reverse has almost identical markings, even the factory line is missing paper/ink



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Old 11-13-2013, 01:54 PM
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Wow, Chris...great work!!!!
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The "A" in Phila looks a little small in the bottom one too
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Old 11-10-2013, 06:17 PM
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The "A" in Phila looks a little small in the bottom one too
right. because it probably didn't get all of the ink applied in that exact spot. i have half a dozen cards that are missing part of the R, and even more where a very small part of the letter is not perfect when compared to another one, ones of which i own both a real copy and another copy of.

i have cards with the same back and front that are identical and one is bolded and the other one is not and they look vastly different from each other...but both are real.

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Old 11-10-2013, 07:58 PM
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I don't really like how it looks, compared it to twenty or so other Magie's and only the Probstein example and the PSA 2 shown have the same font. Both are completely different then all the others. It might be a plate issue similar to the Anderson with a few variations but the font looks fishy to me.

The back & front plates for the Magie should be quite limited to 3 or 4 identifiable plates..think of a vertical stack of 3-4 on a sheet..maybe 1/4 of the plates had this issue and there are fewer out there.

I'm quite suspicious of it.

** these are lined up 100% based on the outside black border, the P shifts as do many colours/layers through out the printing. Steve, could we prove that all Magie's have the Ps lined up vs Magee examples?


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