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Old 11-04-2013, 02:56 PM
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Dave,

I wouldn’t make this just a T206 thing as it’s a hobby thing with one of ones and highest graded ever ever ever etc. But agree 100% some of us T206 folks are guilty of this stuff and have added fuel to the fire.

Really though most serious collectors of T206 wouldn’t make this leap…this is not a stretch it’s comical. In fact comical enough for another reputable auction house to pass on this card and story when offered.

I think much of this hype is what it is hype.....

My point is there should be some accountability with the sellers also. We as collectors should expect that from the folks who ask for our money. Auction houses need to make sure if one is going to sell off of these wild claims there should be some form of due diligence performed beyond…well I can’t disprove it….so let it ride not my problem. That’s a really dangerous slope that needs to be corrected IMO for the good of the hobby.

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Old 11-04-2013, 03:08 PM
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Dave,

I wouldn’t make this just a T206 thing as it’s a hobby thing with one of ones and highest graded ever ever ever etc. But agree 100% some of us T206 folks are guilty of this stuff and have added fuel to the fire.

Really though most serious collectors of T206 wouldn’t make this leap…this is not a stretch it’s comical. In fact comical enough for another reputable auction house to pass on this card and story when offered.

I think much of this hype is what it is hype.....

My point is there should be some accountability with the sellers also. We as collectors should expect that from the folks who ask for our money. Auction houses need to make sure if one is going to sell off of these wild claims there should be some form of due diligence performed beyond…well I can’t disprove it….so let it ride not my problem. That’s a really dangerous slope that needs to be corrected IMO for the good of the hobby.

Cheers,

John

I don't know John. I think henceforth the T-206 set should not be considered "complete" without the famed Bowerman "Honus Wagner back".





Yes, it's ridiculous, but I'm not exactly surprised an auction house ran with it to test the waters with the oddball T-206 crowd.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:11 PM
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Yes, it's ridiculous, but I'm not exactly surprised an auction house ran with it to test the waters with the oddball T-206 crowd.
If that card gets a bid and sells, I will be SHOCKED!!
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:25 PM
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As I asked the last time someone else used similar terminology to describe Edwards and Cobb, if they were white, would you have called them "white gentlemen"? Presumably not. So why identify them as such? No accusations here, I am genuinely interested in why their race is relevant.
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I have to ask:

Did John Voight own it?
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:31 PM
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I already decided to never bid with these guys again, after the debacle where they came on here justifying their shill bidding, then backing down and claiming they wouldn't do it anymore.

This kind of nonsense just proves my decision right.

I hope they realize that by doing this sort of stuff, they lose the respect of a lot of potential bidders.
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I apologize. I did not know their names. If women had owned it, I would say, those two women. I guess I should just say those TWO PEOPLE to be politically correct.
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I would think two guys is PC enough.
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I have to ask:

Did John Voight own it?
Beat me to it.

There is a line in the sand between puffery and dishonesty. This one crosses that line. Not the worst transgression I've ever seen, but still not cool.
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