PSA-A Cautionary Tale!

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by japhi

To me, the big issue here is favoritism and conflict of interest. A big part of the crack and submit game is the risk involved with damaging the card during the crack out, and the risk of potentially getting a lower grade. Factor in higher grading fee's for high value cards and crack and submit can be a risky game.

In this case, the OP had a relationship with the President of PSA and because of that relationship he received favorable treatment. There was no risk of a downgrade because PSA had the slabs. PSA was going to crack the cards and assume the risk (realized) of a damaged card. Furthermore the regular fee's and process were bypassed. I get why Joe was pissed with the OP's reaction - he was doing the OP a huge favour.

This just re-enforces that retail submitter's like me have no chance, the game is rigged. My cards need to go on separate orders, with separate shipping and they are handled by a random grader.

The OP's cards are graded for free and handled personally by the President of the company.

I'm not into all the conspiracy theories that pop up on these boards but the grading process is far too loose This wouldn't be an issue if there wasn't so much money involved.

Frankly I'm amazed that the President of PSA is this involved in the day to day grading of cards... in this case it bit him in the ass, he took on a stupid amount of risk for no obvious upside. How many submitter's are there out there like the OP that have a relationship with Joe and get favours? The process lacks integrity.

This elephant in the room was already identified and beaten to death years ago...the more money you spend at PSA the more privileges you get. The registry is a farce. Can you imagine having a friend working as a grader at PSA? It'd be like printing money.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

This elephant in the room was already identified and beaten to death years ago...the more money you spend at PSA the more privileges you get. The registry is a farce. Can you imagine having a friend working as a grader at PSA? It'd be like printing money.

Dan- no offense, but it's better to print money (PSA) than play with monopoly money (SGC)

[ullmandds]

Kevin...you've certainly made your point over the years...you're all about the money...we get it! Why don't you and Joe go make out in the corner.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Kevin...you've certainly made your point over the years...you're all about the money...we get it! Why don't you and Joe go make out in the corner.

We are on the way to Hawaii for a couple of weeks...

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Dan- no offense, but it's better to print money (PSA) than play with monopoly money (SGC)

Why are you trying to make this a PSA vs SGC thread?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Why are you trying to make this a PSA vs SGC thread?

We probably haven't had one lately?

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Why are you trying to make this a PSA vs SGC thread?

Dan- maybe not PSA vs. SGC, but you are the one that made the comment about PSA. Should I compare them with Beckett?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Dan- maybe not PSA vs. SGC, but you are the one that made the comment about PSA. Should I compare them with Beckett?

Ummmmm....errrrr...this thread is about PSA, it's right there in the title. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that made a comment about PSA. You're the one trying to deflect this thread in another direction.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Ummmmm....errrrr...this thread is about PSA, it's right there in the title. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that made a comment about PSA. You're the one trying to deflect this thread in another direction.

Since Kevin won't or can't post Joe's version, there really isn't anything left to say, so I guess it only makes sense to take it someplace else.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Guys,

Am I the only one that doesn't believe that Kevin really called Joe?

Nice job, Kevin. You had me going for a while.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Guys,

Am I the only one that doesn't believe that Kevin really called Joe?

Nice job, Kevin. You had me going for a while.

888-469-2646, are you a dumbass or what? Tell Joe I said hey!!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Guys,

Am I the only one that doesn't believe that Kevin really called Joe?

Nice job, Kevin. You had me going for a while.

I think he called, but that Joe asked him to treat it confidentially, which he is honoring as he should.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Ummmmm....errrrr...this thread is about PSA, it's right there in the title. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that made a comment about PSA. You're the one trying to deflect this thread in another direction.

Dan- you made the comment about "printing money" as far as PSA goes, as far as other comments about PSA go, Hell, I'm the only one on this forum that seems to like them....Except when then sell on REA, Goodwin, etc...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Dan- you made the comment about "printing money" as far as PSA goes, as far as other comments about PSA go, Hell, I'm the only one on this forum that seems to like them....Except when then sell on REA, Goodwin, etc...

As I posted above, I prefer PSA to SGC.

[x2drich2000]

Does anyone else find it a bit disturbing that PSA would be willing to discuss the details of a private transaction with a third party who really has no reason to be involved in the discussions? Yes, Matt did bring this issue to light in a public forum, but as a publicly traded company I would think PSA would care enough and have an obligation to all of their customers not to violate their customer's privacy by sharing details of what transpired.

DJ