October Autograph Pickups

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by ss

He then went on t.v., and with tears in his eyes said he made a mistake and was sorry.

Well, that makes it OK then! We can all ignore his being a hypocrite.
The love Ortiz gets, plus the hero welcome Manny got from LA when he returned from his suspension tell me that people really don't care about steroids at all.

[packs]

Whoops wrong thread. meant to psot on the main board.

[edtiques]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Well, that makes it OK then! We can all ignore his being a hypocrite.
The love Ortiz gets, plus the hero welcome Manny got from LA when he returned from his suspension tell me that people really don't care about steroids at all.

First,the list is not exact.The goverment prepared it after seizing the testing data.The result was that out of the 104 names recorded as positive,exceeds the actual number of positive tests which was 96.So 8 players shouldn't be on that list.The Mitchell Report explains that some of those 96 positives were contested by the MLBPA,who is protecting its own interests, so of course they'd contest,and maybe that doesn't mean anything.Except that MLB stated that some over-the-counter supplements that were available at the time would have resulted in a positive test.
As far as Ortiz goes and why he was on the list,MLB and the MLBPA said at the time, they are prohibited from discussing it, other than to inform Ortiz that he was on the list. They can't say why he's on the list - to us, to Ortiz, to anyone.
I guess he's guilty until proven innocent,right?

[packs]

Proof or no proof there were plenty of players not on that list. Ortiz was. Players from that list have admitted what they've done. It is clear to me that the list is credible unless you have an ulterior motive, like that you're a fan of a player named. I understand that, but to suggest that the list or information regarding the players on that list is fabricated seems at odds with what some of the players on the list were willing to admit.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by packs

Proof or no proof there were plenty of players not on that list. Ortiz was. Players from that list have admitted what they've done. It is clear to me that the list is credible unless you have an ulterior motive, like that you're a fan of a player named. I understand that, but to suggest that the list or information regarding the players on that list is fabricated seems at odds with what some of the players on the list were willing to admit.

What do you expect from Red Sox fans! To them Their players do no wrong it's only when other players do it that it's wrong. I'm sure Ortiz could fail a PED test tomorrow and they would still love him and say that he never took steroids or mlb set him up.

[jimjim]

Just look at a baseball card of Ortiz from his early days with the Twins and then his days with the Red Sox. I think that is all you need to come to a conclusion. He is just as dirty as Big Mac, Bonds, etc...