T206 Survey Piedy 42 Light VS. Dark...

[Mikehealer]

Johnny
Here's some I used to own. I'll let you decide on light/dark.

[mrvster]

Thanks! one or two are with me

[MVSNYC]

I've owned several P42's over the years, i find the darker ones to be rarer...most of the ones i encounter are light blue, and not too bold...also, many P42's i see are centered to the right.

Here's mine, it's the darkest/boldest one i've ever seen:

[Gradedcardman]

Very Nice !!

[DerekMichael]

I apologize for bouncing off of the original topic, but has anyone else noticed this exact same thing with Uzit backs? I remember a couple of others mentioning this on a past thread, and I certainly agree. One appears very light, while the others appear to be much darker. It could just be a fade, but it honestly does not seem like it.

Sorry for bouncing off the original topic, but I find this thread pretty interesting and I would like to know more about why some inks are darker and some are lighter. I remember how cool it was when the Sovereign 350's color variations were explained to me. It makes sooooo much sense. Maybe there is a reason for this too?

Cool thread!

Derek

[Ronnie73]

I have four or five which I'll post tomorrow. Speaking of off topic but more likely related is the same light and dark Piedmont 42's in the T205 Gold Border set also. I'll post some of them too.

[MVSNYC]

Derek- i used to own your last (boldest) Uzit. i have specifically focused on trying to find the boldest, darkest examples of each back. enjoy that card (Mullin).

[CaramelMan]

The light versions look like bleached cards....I know some people have said they put some bleach in when soaking to remove residue...any way this could be bleached examples?

[DerekMichael]

In regards to the Uzit, the top one I pictured is Jennings "both hands". What I have noticed is that it appears the other Uzit Jennings "both hands" have this exact same color of lightly shaded blue. I could very well be mistaken, but that is what it looks like to me. It might be happening with specific subjects, but I certainly have not seen enough in person or even enough overall to be 100% of anything I have seen. I t honestly seems like there could be a pattern, or a reason, and obviously the same thing the Piedmont 42's. Also, the smart guys have discovered variations in the Sovereign 350's which makes perfect sense, and the fact that some Lenox's are inked in Brown and some are Black, though I am not sure if the Brown and Black signify anything specific other than when they were printed as I have seen Marquard "follow through" with brown and black (the brown I did not see in person, but in a past REA auction as part of a rare back lot).

Come on net54 geniouses, lets crack the code. Who knows, maybe I am nuts, but I agree with other net54 members that something interesting might be cooking here. I know I would love to gain an understanding of what is up, but it is going to take someone with far more T206 savvy than I.

[mrvster]

GREAT INPUT!

Ted, your Chase and Baker are the classic "light " vs. "dark" examples contrasted next to each other...

there are a few that pop up that are borderline...I can usually differentiate them because of my scrap eye....


to answer the question, I don't think any of them would be bleached( some lighter ones would actually smell like bleach).....i'm a little nuts and whiff all my cards ...... id probably taste them if I could....but good thought

I'm thinking:


the two different colors are two complete different printings spaced some time apart for some reason(this is only a theory of mine).. 2 complete different bulk ink supplies....


or a stretched blue by adding white to extend the blue , causing a "baby" blue color...STEVE WHERE ARE YOU??

Craig Wright?

Jimmy??

TC??

[mrvster]

that Schlei is prob the darkest I have seen....thanks for sharing Mike

even the "darker" 42's that are the "light" ones can pick out that illuminescent blue if there is such a term...

that's a hands down dark Schlei

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by mrvster

GREAT INPUT!

Ted, your Chase and Baker are the classic "light " vs. "dark" examples contrasted next to each other...

there are a few that pop up that are borderline...I can usually differentiate them because of my scrap eye....


I'm thinking:


the two different colors are two complete different printings spaced some time apart for some reason(this is only a theory of mine).. 2 complete different bulk ink supplies....

I think your theory regarding....two printings using different shades of blue ink is a plausible; and, does explain the light blue vs dark blue backs on the '42s.
I'll expand that thought to include UZIT cards. A fair comparison, as both these T206 backs were printed at the tail-end of the T206 press runs in the early
months of 1911.

Two years ago, I posted this thread regarding the similarity of PIEDMONT 460 factory #42 and UZIT backs with respect to blue ink differences..............
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ory+42+vs+UZIT

For example......

........................................ Dougherty .................................................. ................. Herzog .................................................. Schaefer


Note........the porous quality of the blue ink on the backs of the Dougherty and Herzog cards vs the solid (and darker) blue of the Schaefer back.


TED Z