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Old 10-22-2013, 02:56 PM
kengoldin kengoldin is offline
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I figured I would help the group out and add a unique , authentic, inscription from Mickey Mantle to the exemplar pile.
This is November 1991, as it was waiting for me at my office when I came back from my honeymoon (1st wife. wedding 10/19/91). He didn't give my marriage long I guess....lasted 13 years
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:40 PM
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I figured I would help the group out and add a unique , authentic, inscription from Mickey Mantle to the exemplar pile.
This is November 1991, as it was waiting for me at my office when I came back from my honeymoon (1st wife. wedding 10/19/91). He didn't give my marriage long I guess....lasted 13 years
I'm curious about those stray dot's in the signature, Ken. Are his M's supposed to look like boobs when you turn the sig upside down?
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:50 PM
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[QUOTE=novakjr;1198065]I'm curious about those stray dot's in the signature, Ken. Are his M's supposed to look like boobs when you turn the sig upside down?[/QUOTE]

LOL!
maybe on that one, if so, it was a joke I didn't get till 22 years later
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:57 PM
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Really Mike, who had the first West Coast show with Mantle. I did two others with him as well in Vegas. You have authenticated more bad Mantles outside of the Donald and Morales and I don't keep examples of your crap. So stick the fifty cents where it belongs. I would be willing to bet that my opinion Mantle whould be much trusted on this site than yours hands down.
By the way you still selling hot dogs at Kiosc?

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Old 10-22-2013, 04:23 PM
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Really Mike, who had the first West Coast show with Mantle. I did two others with him as well in Vegas. You have authenticated more bad Mantles outside of the Donald and Morales and I don't keep examples of your crap. So stick the fifty cents where it belongs.
By the way you still selling hot dogs at Kiosc?
There are no examples just like the selling of Hot Dogs. 90% of what comes out of you mouth is a lie and the other 10% is questionable. You are not really the person that should be debating or even involved in any Mickey Mantle discussions. You are a small part of the reason that his autograph is worth about 25% of what it should be worth. You are also a reason that some authentication companies are using forgeries as their exemplars for authenticating Mickey's autographs. Your role even as a middleman and forger was also highly exaggerated and self promoted by youself. It would be best to go back to what you know best Strawberry and Mattingly Rookie cards.

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Old 10-22-2013, 04:28 PM
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Wow. Mike tell me something new. You forgot to mention it was authenticators like you that allowed us to sell that garbage.
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:41 PM
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Wow. Mike tell me something new. You forgot to mention it was authenticators like you that allowed us to sell that garbage.
Once
Once again a lie out of your mouth. I have never heard of you nor have I ever authenticated one item for you or your friends. Your crap was before I was authenticating for P.A.A.S. . You can thank a lot of the authentications of your crap on some of the major autograph authenticators and the lies and rumors you guys use to try to discredit the honest people in the industry.
You know nothing about P.A.A.S. , nothing about my involvement with Mickey Mantle and over 60 additional athletes that I had contracts and marketing agreement with.
Do not come out swinging your bull about me and my company when there are 100's of fakes being sold daily that you and your partner Chris do not even ever discuss nor dare to even show because of the stickers on them.

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Old 10-22-2013, 04:46 PM
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I'm curious about those stray dot's in the signature, Ken. Are his M's supposed to look like boobs when you turn the sig upside down?[/QUOTE]

LOL!
maybe on that one, if so, it was a joke I didn't get till 22 years later
I thought they were tears lol
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:58 PM
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Michael, it seems to me that every time I post a Mantle forgery with one of your COAs, you claim (like Mueller and Frangipani) that your COAs have been altered, modified, etc.

So what you're saying is that because your COAs (Collectables Of The Stars & PAAS) are so well-respected, that sellers are using them to sell their forgeries?
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:29 PM
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Michael, it seems to me that every time I post a Mantle forgery with one of your COAs, you claim (like Mueller and Frangipani) that your COAs have been altered, modified, etc.

So what you're saying is that because your COAs (Collectables Of The Stars & PAAS) are so well-respected, that sellers are using them to sell their forgeries?
That seems to be the case, but do not make sound like it is everytime.
You have posted a hand full of stuff that has been around and discussed years ago. I have examined and authenticated over 400+ Mickey Mantle items it the past 3 years. where are all these fakes that you keep refering to? Look up PSA/DNA, JSA. GA, and maybe you may find some, but it would be rare to find a questionable P.A.A.S. authenticated Mickey Mantle item.
My certs and name has been used for years as an attempt by forgeries for credibility. As I said in the early post the jealousy in this industry is unmatched. My credentials will always speak for themselves, I have been attacked and lied about for years but unlike Spence, Grad, and Sipe whom I say nothing negative about, I am available to speak out, educate and correct the errors that so called "want to be experts" threw against the walls.
I have little time for the foolishness that you and Shelly are involved with.
I also feel you may be a key reason that some of the largest forgery groups in the industry are still in business. You are not taken seriously and you say many things out of your hat without proof and documentation.
Good Luck blogging.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:36 PM
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That seems to be the case, but do not make sound like it is everytime.
You have posted a hand full of stuff that has been around and discussed years ago. I have examined and authenticated over 400+ Mickey Mantle items it the past 3 years. where are all these fakes that you keep refering to? Look up PSA/DNA, JSA. GA, and maybe you may find some, but it would be rare to find a questionable P.A.A.S. authenticated Mickey Mantle item.
My certs and name has been used for years as an attempt by forgeries for credibility. As I said in the early post the jealousy in this industry is unmatched. My credentials will always speak for themselves, I have been attacked and lied about for years but unlike Spence, Grad, and Sipe whom I say nothing negative about, I am available to speak out, educate and correct the errors that so called "want to be experts" threw against the walls.
I have little time for the foolishness that you and Shelly are involved with.
I also feel you may be a key reason that some of the largest forgery groups in the industry are still in business. You are not taken seriously and you say many things out of your hat without proof and documentation.
Good Luck blogging.
Really, Michael.

Can you name one major auction house that utilizes you as an authenticator?
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:08 PM
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That seems to be the case, but do not make sound like it is everytime.
You have posted a hand full of stuff that has been around and discussed years ago. I have examined and authenticated over 400+ Mickey Mantle items it the past 3 years. where are all these fakes that you keep refering to? Look up PSA/DNA, JSA. GA, and maybe you may find some, but it would be rare to find a questionable P.A.A.S. authenticated Mickey Mantle item.
My certs and name has been used for years as an attempt by forgeries for credibility. As I said in the early post the jealousy in this industry is unmatched. My credentials will always speak for themselves, I have been attacked and lied about for years but unlike Spence, Grad, and Sipe whom I say nothing negative about, I am available to speak out, educate and correct the errors that so called "want to be experts" threw against the walls.
I have little time for the foolishness that you and Shelly are involved with.
I also feel you may be a key reason that some of the largest forgery groups in the industry are still in business. You are not taken seriously and you say many things out of your hat without proof and documentation.
Good Luck blogging.
Michael, last Christmas a friend of mine in Arizona sent me a copy of the book "Operation Bullpen" and wrote the below note in the book.

Yes, that Tim.

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