What was the culture of this forum a decade ago?

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Popups, lots of popups. And then more popups.

It was also before everyone realized that T206s are the only worthwhile cards.

If you were a newbie, you read more and posted less.

But then there were the popups.

What are popups? Is that like this "instant message" thing my wife talks about?

[irishdenny]

Excellent Thread!

This seems to be a somewhat of a semi~serious thread... So, I'll stick to the Topic. This is only my point of view!

I arrived just after a gentleman named Leon took over, as "The Local Peasant Owner". ;-) I somewhat kept to myself, learning what I could, from those who I now see as my mentors. A student is only as good as "His Will to Learn!" If I had a question, I took it upon myself to PM them, For those who decided to get into the mayhem, I believe, lost a bit of their passion for why they really came here.

I realize that this is just a Hobby, based on a Game, The Greatest American Pastime that will ever exist! And with that said, I have a gentle sadistic sense of humor. Heck, I retired from the Submarine Service in 2004, But one thing I've learned along the way, is that "Respect is Do to Those Who Came Before you!"

I didn't know who those people were. So, I became patient enough to Listen, Read, and find out who were those who New this Hobby Well! It didn't take but a few months for "Those Who "Knew" To Surface!"

In my humble opinion, Along the way, This is what I found out. That I am Here to Learn and have some fun, But not at another's expense with slander. I like to jest just like any one of us. I do admit that I'm not perfect, I've had a couple issues, 2 that I know of! These were minor deals, not words!

I Also found that We are Caretakers, Caretakers to what one day will possibly become Precious Artifacts... Truly! 7-10 years ago, I was privileged to of come across some of these Unique Cards. Most of them I found away from the board. However, I do believe that Pete U. is correct! I also think that there were many more on the BST. We don't see them as much for sale on the BST anymore. The Rare, Oddity & Freak Collectors have grown and thus these Relics will remain in their collections until the time comes for them to be pasted on.

For Those Who have been real & helped me along the way, With All Do Respect, "I Salute You!" Some of You Know Who You Are, Others I Still Need to Thank. Beneath the Business & Politics of this World, There are Real People who Truly Love this Game & Hobby!

I do my best to give back what has been given. I Have so much more that I can say... But when I Listen, I feel more at home. Those who have contacted me for advice, it's been my Honor & Privilege to Help!

I don't mean to be a sentimentalist, But I do find Grand Comfort iN the Words written here by my Net54 Mentor's! This is a Simple Hobby where Brilliant Adventures Unfold. LOOK(I also take this to mean "Learn"). SEEK(While you "Learn") & You Will Find! And as I mentioned earlier, "This iS a Simple Hobby!"

Oh yeah, in the past when I thought I knew, there was always more to learn! So Now, I know Not "To think That I Know", Thus the Adventures Unfold...

As Always...

[Wite3]

Wow...been around a long time...I arrived before the Leon "takeover"...

Pop-ups were annoying...I do remember that.

There were growing pains and fights but some great information. I also spent just the first year reading. In fact, I think I averaged about a post every 4 months for the first two years. I was slightly intimidated by some of the collectors knowledge but learned pretty quickly that everyone had something to contribute. My own niche was under represented (T205) and I had a lot of oddball pre-war that I had picked up over the years that I needed identified. Eventually, I started posting more, encouraged by other collectors and friends.

I will agree that more interesting stuff appeared on the BST more often. Got some great stuff and deals. People were also willing to help more in finding stuff for collectors. I remember passing on finds to several collectors on Net54 and having others show me stuff too.

Joshua

[martindl]

Ah, Leon's takeover. I still miss Jay (corrected per request).

As Barry said, seemed to be more inclusive back then. T206 got attention, but nowhere near as much as today. Same as today, there would be a couple of crackpots show up every year, stay for months, and then be gone.

Slabbed versus not was discussed a lot (slabbing was in it's infancy). In retrospect, the non-slab crowd ended up being dead on with their gloomy prognostications of what slabbing would become and the problems that would ensue.

Money/value seemed to be far less of a focus, but maybe that's just my current wistfulness kicking in.

[martindl]

Leon asked that I add my name. I guess the 'Lee' reference caused some discomfort.

I'm Martin Dalziel (pronounced D-L hence the ID) from Coventry, England originally but in the States since 1981 and a proud US citizen.

Another difference from back when; we all went by our online names as there was little need to have to spell out your whole name.

Martin Dalziel

[RCMcKenzie]

The original Full Count board had about the same number of posts per day that today's reborn Full Count board has. The biggest difference today is that the board has a lot more viewers and members. Today, if you ask..."What card do you think is Obermann's favorite T206 card? Olbermann pops up on here and says, 'Rebel Oakes' or whatever he said.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by martindl

Leon asked that I add my name. I guess the 'Lee' reference caused some discomfort.

I'm Martin Dalziel (pronounced D-L hence the ID) from Coventry, England originally but in the States since 1981 and a proud US citizen.

Another difference from back when; we all went by our online names as there was little need to have to spell out your whole name.

Martin Dalziel

Lee never had anything to do with this board other than being a valuable member. However, I am sure Lee would accept flowers if you really miss him. As for the PM I sent you about your name it doesn't have to do with this thread. It has to do with the comment (opinion) you gave concerning Heritage, in another part of the board. And yes, this board makes everyone be accountable for what they say with their full name. The forum is 25x as large as it was 10 yrs ago too so it's not a quaint little forum as much as it was..
I should add that Lee is also a valuable advertiser, a difference from 10 yrs ago too .

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by martindl

Ah, Leon's takeover. I still miss Lee.

As Barry said, seemed to be more inclusive back then. T206 got attention, but nowhere near as much as today. Same as today, there would be a couple of crackpots show up every year, stay for months, and then be gone.

Slabbed versus not was discussed a lot (slabbing was in it's infancy). In retrospect, the non-slab crowd ended up being dead on with their gloomy prognostications of what slabbing would become and the problems that would ensue.

Money/value seemed to be far less of a focus, but maybe that's just my current wistfulness kicking in.

Slabbing started in 1991, was hardly in its infancy at the beginning of this Board??

I think it's Jay Behrens you may be missing.

[ullmandds]

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Slabbing started in 1991, was hardly in its infancy at the beginning of this Board??

I think it's Jay Behrens you may be missing.

Jay the resident dunderhead? You'd have to be real hardcore to miss that guy!

[Vintagecatcher]

Having posted on the original Full Count board the chat option was the rage on the early boards. Things change I guess.


Patrick

[martindl]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Slabbing started in 1991, was hardly in its infancy at the beginning of this Board??

I think it's Jay Behrens you may be missing.

You're right, Jay not Lee. He added edge to the board which amused me at the time.

Re slabbing, 'infancy' was the wrong word. I meant it as it applied to pre-war cards and the acceptance of this community.

[Runscott]

There were more non-T206 'in depth' discussions. Most of the detailed card websites did not exist, so there were plenty of details about cards, etc., that we were still hashing out. I really enjoyed the esoteric card topics - most of those get lost very quickly now.

Vintage photos got very little airtime - other than David, I had to beg people to talk with me about them.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by martindl

You're right, Jay not Lee. He added edge to the board which amused me at the time.

Re slabbing, 'infancy' was the wrong word. I meant it as it applied to pre-war cards and the acceptance of this community.

I know people strongly disagree, but I found Jay interesting and provocative as well.

[ethicsprof]

what amazes me is how resilient this board has become in the last few years.
There have been some very difficult issues which could have been quite
disabling for any board but our moderator did and does a fine job of incubating his
decisions while reaching out for insight and direction from board members.
I must say that I have seen this process grow more expert as much time has passed. In a sense, one might say that the moderatorial antennae have
become much more discerning. I think that has been a must since the board
has grown leaps and bounds since 2003 when I began observing this board.
I will say that since the board has grown so large there is much more
potential for seriously aberrant behaviors to discolor and distort the collegial
intents of this board. The battle between the resilience of good intentions
with discerning antennae and the resilience of self-serving and self-centered
cacophony continues. In very recent times, I have begun to sense the victory of the former.
all the best,
barry