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Ease · #1 10-19-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

What I'd like to know is are these consignment based ebay clearing houses providing the shillers...or are the consigners doing the shilling?

I'm guessing a little of both?

I feel like its gotta be predominately consignors doing the shilling, the big ebay clearing houses just provide the open door/avenue for shilling.

novakjr · #2 10-19-2013, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ease

I feel like its gotta be predominately consignors doing the shilling, the big ebay clearing houses just provide the open door/avenue for shilling.

And ebay allows for the deniability on both ends. Because ultimately, ebay allows the bidder information to be hidden, from the buyers, pwcc and the consignors, and leaves everything to speculation.

Essentially, the items are consigned twice. Once to pwcc, and then again to ebay, adding another link to the chain of command, and allowing both parties to either point the finger at the other, or(more than likely in this case) to claim that bids that appear fraudulent, or fluky, are just part of the amateur nature of ebay bidding in general.. We've all seen legitimately indecisive, idiot, flaky bidders before. Not just on ebay, but even in our own b/s/t forums here. But Ebay's setup, hides bidder info(unlike here), and allows those types to ultimately be blamed, even when they aren't involved..

Both consignors and pwcc, are aware of the loopholes that ebay allows them to take advantage of. And that is why they are still on ebay in the first place, instead of running their own auctions... Why keep letting ebay take a cut, when they could just do it themselves? Well, because they wouldn't do as well, and then they'd ultimately be accountable for anything seemingly shady.. The extra money from bid manipulation, far outweighs the fees from ebay.. Don't get me wrong, I don't think pwcc is doing the manipulation, BUT I think they know it's going on, and continue to turn a blind eye to it. Why? Well, because it benefits them..

I truly believe, they used ebay as a launching pad for a legitimate business, BUT there comes a point when you decide it's better off to stay in a system that allows for manipulation, than to move on to one in which you can't, because you'd shorten the paper trail, and ultimately open yourself up for accountability.

ullmandds · #3 10-19-2013, 09:33 AM

pete...i'd much rather talk about how to go about beginning to collect T206...now that's interesting!

Peter_Spaeth · #4 10-19-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

pete...i'd much rather talk about how to go about beginning to collect T206...now that's interesting!

Which background color is your favorite?

calvindog · #5 10-19-2013, 09:53 AM

What's your top 5 T206 portraits?

Leon · #6 10-19-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Which background color is your favorite?

Pink.....................I am sorry, what are we talking about?

calvindog · #7 10-19-2013, 09:57 AM

How do you display your T206s?

Leon · #8 10-19-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

How do you display your T206s?

Why do people collect T206s?

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