T206 Blue Old Mill

[ullmandds]

SGC doesn't get taken to task like PSA does because SGC doesn't make nearly as many questionable moves as PSA does.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

SGC doesn't get taken to task like PSA does because SGC doesn't make nearly as many questionable moves as PSA does.

SGC is my grader of choice both personally and professionally. I know most of the folks at the company and trust them very much. All of that said, I was just calling it like I see it...just one

opinion.

I should add that I have used BVG on quite a few occasions, for various reasons. I think all 3 of the top companies do a good job.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

SGC doesn't get taken to task like PSA does because SGC doesn't make nearly as many questionable moves as PSA does.

Pete- I feel you, but what about resale value? PSA blows SGC out of the water, not even close, especially T206s... When are SGC advocates going to admit this? Even if you are simply a collector, sooner or later you are going to have to realize a price when you sell. Does this not matter?

[ullmandds]

Kevin...I agree in the past many of PSA's hammer prices were higher...due to PSA's...in my opinion...testosterone laden registry. If these "collectors" chose to pay inflated prices for cards with inflated grades...just to improve their position on a registry fabricated by a corrupt company...this is just plain stupid behavior...in my opinion.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Kevin...I agree in the past many of PSA's hammer prices were higher...due to PSA's...in my opinion...testosterone laden registry. If these "collectors" chose to pay inflated prices for cards with inflated grades...just to improve their position on a registry fabricated by a corrupt company...this is just plain stupid behavior...in my opinion.

if a great majority of people buy at a given price, it sets a new precedence for the item. some may think the item is over priced. others may recognize that there is equal supply and demand at the new given, higher price.

kevin

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Pete- I feel you, but what about resale value? PSA blows SGC out of the water, not even close, especially T206s... When are SGC advocates going to admit this? Even if you are simply a collector, sooner or later you are going to have to realize a price when you sell. Does this not matter?

My opinion on resale value is so many collectors have so much $ into PSA cards. That no one stops buying there junk because it would highly devalue there own PSA graded cards if they did.

I understand everyone makes mistakes. SGC just seems to make by far the least of the big 3 and hopefully someday resale prices will reflect that.

[ullmandds]

I kind of agree with Ben...it's like what is being said over with the Mastro debacle...once a card sells for a certain amount...despite the fact it may have been shilled...or phantom bid up to that amount...when future sales occur of a similar card...I think those who have previously purchased the card are bidding it up to justify what they paid...it's kind of a large...firm BUBBLE!!!!!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by bnorth

My opinion on resale value is so many collectors have so much $ into PSA cards. That no one stops buying there junk because it would highly devalue there own PSA graded cards if they did.

I understand everyone makes mistakes. SGC just seems to make by far the least of the big 3 and hopefully someday resale prices will reflect that.

wow.....just when you think you heard it all....

[ullmandds]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61uWowYxzQ8

[thehoodedcoder]

My opinion on resale value is so many collectors have so much $ into PSA cards. That no one stops buying there junk because it would highly devalue there own PSA graded cards if they did.

that is just the most ridiculous thing i have heard in a while. you did not think about that before you typed it.

kevin

[bnorth]

Yes I did, it is actually a very common opinion among collectors. Even ones that deal mainly in graded cards.

Please tell my why you think they sell for more, I am very interested in your opinion.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Yes I did, it is actually a very common opinion among collectors. Even ones that deal mainly in graded cards.

Please tell my why you think they sell for more, I am very interested in your opinion.

I think that your explanation of a person believes they need to keep spending their money on something they don't believe in, then in fact DOES do just that after their revelation, to maintain the value of their cards or even believes that themselves have a big impact on that is utterly ridiculous.

Based purely on number of collectors, I might assume that there is at least one person out there that believes that. To think that there are large number of them is even more ridiculous.

If many people believe that, its not ridiculous. Its sad. It speaks to how common sense has been totally flushed out in this country.

My opinion about why they sell for more is totally irrelavant to that.

Kevin

[wonkaticket]

Quality items sell and always will sell for quality prices no matter what holder they are in PSA or SGC.

Now your avg. soft graded run of the mill cards may in fact sell for a bit more in PSA due to the much more active registry base but that's about the sum of it for me.

Nobody is leaving serious money on the table by using one or the other IMO, choose who you would like to use for grading and go for it.