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Old 10-10-2013, 10:00 PM
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I'm curious. If these cool photos were on ebay, rather than a Henry Yee or Mr. Yeakley auction, would they go super high? I don't know the final bids on these, but seems people do get caught in "auction fever" . Are there ever any deals with Henry? I mean, no disrespect, Im just curious. Henry, Ive known for many years and Rhetty seems like a cool guy.
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I think, like with every auction, the final price comes down to a few common things. Advertising/credibility/visibility of the seller, quality of the items, and luck.
Henry Yee, Rhys, REA, Legendary, Heritage, etc all have long lists of customers, as well as a certain amount of public awareness, so many more "motivated" buyers are following their auctions. More exposure = more interested parties following the auction = more likely hood of bidding fever.

These same auctioneers are known for outstanding quality. I think Henry's reputation is especially strong in regards to having, not only top quality images, simply impeccable condition of the pictures he sells.

Ebay is a mixed bag. Sellers that are unknown. Item quality that is all over the place. Uncertainty as whether or not the seller has described the "type" correctly.
For me, the price I would've bid/paid for each of the pictures I won would not have been different. The difference, between a name auction and eBay, is that I think the final price I wound up having to pay might have been less on eBay.
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:22 PM
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I think, like with every auction, the final price comes down to a few common things. Advertising/credibility/visibility of the seller, quality of the items, and luck.
Henry Yee, Rhys, REA, Legendary, Heritage, etc all have long lists of customers, as well as a certain amount of public awareness, so many more "motivated" buyers are following their auctions. More exposure = more interested parties following the auction = more likely hood of bidding fever.

These same auctioneers are known for outstanding quality. I think Henry's reputation is especially strong in regards to having, not only top quality images, simply impeccable condition of the pictures he sells.

Ebay is a mixed bag. Sellers that are unknown. Item quality that is all over the place. Uncertainty as whether or not the seller has described the "type" correctly.
For me, the price I would've bid/paid for each of the pictures I won would not have been different. The difference, between a name auction and eBay, is that I think the final price I wound up having to pay might have been less on eBay.
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:05 PM
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Since we now have a hyee ad in the RMY thread...

I don't bid in the hyee auctions, or even view them, and I have still managed to build a decent collection and I am certain that avoiding paying huge premiums for photos has not hurt my collection any. I am glad to see Rhys entering the photo auction market, and I hope he clears up a few issues and improves on what, if you believe everything you read in this forum, is an area that up to now has basically been 'owned' by a single ebay seller. That's not the case, but that's what some here would have us believe.

I would have liked to have seen Rhys begin his auctions without even mentioning previous systems or other sellers - I think his own reputation would have been sufficient for beginning this venture - but nevertheless I think he will do just fine.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:01 AM
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Since we now have a hyee ad in the RMY thread...

I don't bid in the hyee auctions, or even view them, and I have still managed to build a decent collection and I am certain that avoiding paying huge premiums for photos has not hurt my collection any. I am glad to see Rhys entering the photo auction market, and I hope he clears up a few issues and improves on what, if you believe everything you read in this forum, is an area that up to now has basically been 'owned' by a single ebay seller. That's not the case, but that's what some here would have us believe.

I would have liked to have seen Rhys begin his auctions without even mentioning previous systems or other sellers - I think his own reputation would have been sufficient for beginning this venture - but nevertheless I think he will do just fine.
Scott,
If you're referring to my post, I don't understand why you would accuse me of advertising for Henry.
Scott asked if these prices would've been the same if posted on ebay. I merely answered why I think they sell for more in RMY, HYee, REA, etc auctions. I mentioned all of the auction houses in both of the points I made and I only singled Henry out for the condition of the items he sells. I used it as an example to reinforce the point about condition affecting sale price, not as an ad telling people to go buy from him. Perhaps if you did view his auctions, you would know that his reputation in this regard isn't a secret. This goes hand in hand with his reputation for getting, what in many cases are, ridiculously high prices.
It's kind of funny that I get nailed for advertising for Henry after spending more money in a single RMY auction than I have ever spent in a single HYee auction. This followed me criticizing, in another thread, the writer of the press release about Yee and Rogers that took shots at Rhys' auction and system on the eve of his first auction ending. I think there is plenty of evidence that I like and support both parties.
Also, I never said, or implied, bidding in anyone's auction was mandatory to build a great collection. If you choose not to patronize one auctioneer or another, that is certainly your perogative. There have been many threads questioning the business practices of just about every auction house in creation. Personally, I hope no one who collects anything similar to me visits any of these auctions, so I can pay less for the stuff I want.
If you were referring to someone else, sorry for the rant.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:33 AM
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Again, there is no intent of negativity against Rhys or Henry. I guess a name and reputation, plus not having to "hunt " for a nice piece, like you do prowling through the bay, is worth a bit of a premium.

I wish both men the best in their auctions, as reputation and quality is worth a lot in this business
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Scott,
If you're referring to my post, I don't understand why you would accuse me of advertising for Henry.
Scott asked if these prices would've been the same if posted on ebay. I merely answered why I think they sell for more in RMY, HYee, REA, etc auctions. I mentioned all of the auction houses in both of the points I made and I only singled Henry out for the condition of the items he sells. I used it as an example to reinforce the point about condition affecting sale price, not as an ad telling people to go buy from him. Perhaps if you did view his auctions, you would know that his reputation in this regard isn't a secret. This goes hand in hand with his reputation for getting, what in many cases are, ridiculously high prices.
It's kind of funny that I get nailed for advertising for Henry after spending more money in a single RMY auction than I have ever spent in a single HYee auction. This followed me criticizing, in another thread, the writer of the press release about Yee and Rogers that took shots at Rhys' auction and system on the eve of his first auction ending. I think there is plenty of evidence that I like and support both parties.
Also, I never said, or implied, bidding in anyone's auction was mandatory to build a great collection. If you choose not to patronize one auctioneer or another, that is certainly your perogative. There have been many threads questioning the business practices of just about every auction house in creation. Personally, I hope no one who collects anything similar to me visits any of these auctions, so I can pay less for the stuff I want.
If you were referring to someone else, sorry for the rant.
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Mark, my post wasn't all about you.

Edited to add - but yes, the first sentence was in response to: "I think Henry's reputation is especially strong in regards to having, not only top quality images, simply impeccable condition of the pictures he sells."

The rest of it had nothing to do with your post - I just felt like adding some of my thoughts regarding the new photo auction relationships. Just like with any other topic, there are those who haven't given it any thought, those who don't care and those who disagree.
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Mark, my post wasn't all about you.

Edited to add - but yes, the first sentence was in response to: "I think Henry's reputation is especially strong in regards to having, not only top quality images, simply impeccable condition of the pictures he sells."

The rest of it had nothing to do with your post - I just felt like adding some of my thoughts regarding the new photo auction relationships. Just like with any other topic, there are those who haven't given it any thought, those who don't care and those who disagree.
Scott,
I understand, but I didn't make that statement to function as an ad.

I agree that some of the behavior we have seen is unfortunate. To close my part of this discussion out, let me say that there appears to be more than enough pictures, sellers of pictures, and buyers of pictures for everyone to find things that fit their collection and their budget.

I wish all the photo people well, just no bidding on any Gehrig photos any more!!

Best,
Mark
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Has anyone received their winnings, yet? I'm anxiously awaiting the delivery of my photo.
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