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09-26-2013, 01:18 PM
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you are right on one thing there is many bogus cello star packs PSA graded in circulation, in fact YOU ARE the proud or maybe not so proud owner of some of them just look!!! you recently submitted these 2 Bench packs 1978 & 1979 and Bench NEVER came in the top section of either 1978 or 1979, those were put there by a counterfeiter, so you were duped by who ever sold'm to you and PSA for authenticating them! Daniel you got the double whammy!! 
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09-26-2013, 07:45 PM
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Hello Patrick,
so far i've been talking about the easy way to detect a bogus star pack and that is recognizing whether the star card belongs in the top section of the pack or not, this pack presents a different challenge for me because the card showing on top Molitor/Trammell does belong in the top section and the card on back is from panel "C" so it also does belong in that section HOWEVER i do see red flags!! i'm posting 3 pictures to help you understand the first is a picture of how a legit pack really looks (concentrate in the white part) the other 2 pictures are isolated sections of the scan you posted, the 2nd pic shows what it looks to me like an interior tear that only happens when the pack is opened, the 3rd is an arrow like look in the white that shows that section of the inside flap may have been moved, REMEMBER i'm judging by what i see in the scan you provided,,if you take a magnifying glass and examine it i'm pretty sure you'll see it LMK and i'll explain rhy that happens in a follow-up.   
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09-27-2013, 12:38 PM
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The corners on the Molitor look rounded. Is that typical of 78 cellos?
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Arthur, those corners do look funky! you can figure out why, now. Last edited by pepis; 09-29-2013 at 02:44 AM.
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Jose, just wondering if one of the area's you are focusing in on in scan three is the numbers 54 in the code. They look to be partially missing. I'm not real familiar with the cellos so just trying to test my eye for this type of fraud. Thanks for all the great information.
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