The holy Grail of your collection

[pcoz]

Originally Posted by bcbgcbrcb

My experience with them also has been that if the submitter does the legwork and their info is verifiable, SGC will identify individual players on postcards, etc. Of course, they have to be very careful from a liability standpoint so they must be 100% sure before doing anything, which makes sense.

BTW I gave them the first Ruth RPPC from 1915 that was discovered and that was a few years ago (the one that Pete now has in an SGC 60 holder, mine was a second version and graded a 50).

Scott & Phil, I did give them info they verified. But, if I can remember the conversation when they were submitted, they didn't guarantee anything I'm sure because of the liability thing. They see a lot over there, but I'm sure they appreciate any help you can give them on your rare pieces. Phil you're absolutely right on the Ruth RPPC in the 60 holder. You had the other. The other two RPPC's are the only ones known of their kind as far as I know.

[Pythonfactory]

Here are my holy grails: a 1973 Topps Willie Mays and 1961 Topps Duke Snider. I traded for them in 6th grade (late 90's). This kid's father had given them to him but the kid was such a big Indians fan I was able to convince him to trade me them for about 5x their worth (according to Beckett) in shiny Albert Belle's, Kenny Lofton's, etc., cards that are worthless today. I had always been a baseball nut but this was the first time I felt connected to the players of baseball's past.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by Pythonfactory

Here are my holy grails: a 1973 Topps Willie Mays and 1961 Topps Duke Snider. I traded for them in 6th grade (late 90's). This kid's father had given them to him but the kid was such a big Indians fan I was able to convince him to trade me them for about 5x their worth (according to Beckett) in shiny Albert Belle's, Kenny Lofton's, etc., cards that are worthless today. I had always been a baseball nut but this was the first time I felt connected to the players of baseball's past.

Around 1980 I traded 9 Eddie Murray rookie cards for a 1962 Mays. My parents became really concerned and wanted to call the guy's parents.

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by MattyC

37 years-old today, and latest grail/b-day present is on the way-- here it is with the other grail, both 2013 acquisitions. Gonna enjoy and chill for a while before wondering what comes next...

Wow 2 awesome cards!

[MattyC]

Thank you kindly, Steve. With two tiny kids and a wife from Sweden for whom vintage baseball is not a priority, lol, it is good to be able to share cards somewhere! Just got the larger Jax scan done yesterday actually:

[ullmandds]

Matt...nice JJ...if you like lipstick moustaches...but your Ruth RC is spectacular!!!!!

[MattyC]

Thx, Pete! I've always found that red mustache a hoot. What a signature flavorful accent for a card! Perfect example of some of the charming quirks in Pre-War cards; I just think the whole Pre-War space is so amazing, from the images themselves to the sheer variety of issues/sets. Just an awesome playground overall. And a great community of collectors overall as well; have met a few incredibly solid, stand-up, expert guys here.

[CaramelMan]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Pete, I know those are all Babe Ruth, but I wonder how SGC determined that to be the case - I know that they don't have anyone there who can recognize faces.

Any ideas?

isn't Ruth LITERALLY the most recognizable face IN THE WORLD?

I think I read that once...most unique face also....

[Sean]

Originally Posted by CaramelMan

isn't Ruth LITERALLY the most recognizable face IN THE WORLD?

I think I read that once...most unique face also....

And I believe that the least unique face is Winston Churchill. Almost every caucasian baby looks like him for the 1st six months.

Sorry, I know that's a bad joke. To get us back on topic I'll post my Holy Grail.
I began looking in 2002. I was the underbidder three times and missed out on a 4th one as well before I got this one in 2006. And it's the best card I'll ever own:

[pencil1974]

Some are better than others but like them all.

[yanksfan09]

nice cards Brad

[pencil1974]

Thank you!

[bcbgcbrcb]

Just picked this one up at the Philly Show yesterday. It was a prearranged deal and not for sale at the show.

[Kenny Cole]

Sweet card Phil!!! That one is high on my want list.

[Bicem]

wow Phil, congrats!!

[ullmandds]

nice phil...real tough one...hardly a card though!!!!!

[CW]

Wow, very nice, Phil! Not only for its rarity and the subject, but that is simply a very cool image of Joe Jackson! One I had not seen before.

[rhettyeakley]

Extremely rare oversized postcard from the 1909 Atlanta Crackers, I collect Roy Castleton as he was the first LDS Major League ballplayer, the centerpiece of my Castleton accumulation (I just need to find a Western Playground and a T4 Obak Cabinet if one is ever uncovered)...

[Mark]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Extremely rare oversized postcard from the 1909 Atlanta Crackers, I collect Roy Castleton as he was the first LDS Major League ballplayer, the centerpiece of my Castleton accumulation (I just need to find a Western Playground and a T4 Obak Cabinet if one is ever uncovered)...

The Western Playground and t4 cards would be Holy Grails in the strict sense. Best of luck.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Extremely rare oversized postcard from the 1909 Atlanta Crackers, I collect Roy Castleton as he was the first LDS Major League ballplayer, the centerpiece of my Castleton accumulation (I just need to find a Western Playground and a T4 Obak Cabinet if one is ever uncovered)...

Approximately how many LDS major leaguers have there been? I don't think I could name one -- but I assume there are a bunch?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Approximately how many LDS major leaguers have there been? I don't think I could name one -- but I assume there are a bunch?

Alan Ashby, catcher[44]
Roy Castleton was the first Mormon to ever play professional baseball.[45] He threw perfect game in the Ohio-Pennsylvania League.[46] New York Yankees and Cincinnati Reds in the Pacific Coast League.
Gary Cooper, 3rd baseman/outfield, 1986 June draft Housing Astros, major league debut Sept. 1991, had over 1,000 minor league hits. Named Triple A All Star MVP.[citation needed]
Bobby Crosby, shortstop[47] Oakland Athletics
Dennis Eckersley, Hall of Fame pitcher for the Oakland Athletics
Jacoby Ellsbury, Outfielder, Boston Red Sox[48]
Jim Gott, Pitcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates
Jeremy Guthrie, pitcher[49]
Roy Halladay, pitcher[44] Toronto Blue Jays and Philadelphia Phillies
Bryce Harper, 2010 MLB #1 draft pick, outfielder for the Washington Nationals[50]
Bruce Hurst, former MLB Pitcher, pitched and won games 1 and 5 and started game 7 for the Boston Red Sox in the 1986 World Series against the New York Mets.[51]
Cale Iorg, minor league baseball player in the Detroit Tigers organization.[52][53]
Garth Iorg, a former Major League Baseball player who played his entire career (1978–1987) for the Toronto Blue Jays.[54]
Wally Joyner, first baseman[55] former California Angels player
Jeff Kent, former second basemen[56] Los Angeles Dodgers and San Francisco Giants
Harmon Killebrew, first baseman[57] Hall of Famer for the Minnesota Twins
Vance Law, former third basemen[44] and current Brigham Young University head coach. son of Vern Law
Vern Law, pitcher[58] Cy Young Award winner with the Pittsburgh Pirates
Matt Lindstrom, pitcher[44] Florida Marlins
Brandon Lyon, Pitcher[47]
Jack Morris, All-Star and World Series hero with the Detroit Tigers [47]
Dale Murphy, Outfielder 2 time National League MVP [59] Atlanta Braves
Cory Snyder, Infielder with five MLB teams[47]
Clyde Wright, Pitcher[47] California Angels
Jaret Wright, Pitcher[47] Cleveland

[rhettyeakley]

There have been quite a few actually (somewhere in the neighborhood of 60-75 or so), some are not really active members of the LDS faith but are baptized as such...

As far as pre-1945 guys are concerned:
Roy Castleton
Spencer Adams
Ray Jacobs
Red Peery
Newt Kimball
Monte Pearson (not sure how active he was but was born into the church)

Other notables from post-1945:
Harmon Killebrew (don't think he was particularly active)
Fred Sanford
Ken Hubbs
Vernon and Vance Law
Danny Ainge
Barry Bonnell
Iorg brothers (Dane and Garth)
Dale Murphy
Cory Snyder
Jack Morris
Bruce Hurst
Wally Joyner
Jeff Kent
Jeremy Guthrie
Roy Halladay
-and probably most notably right now is Bryce Harper

[calvindog]

Halliday and Killebrew are a pretty good Koufax/Greenberg combo.

[btkpath]

Wow, so many great cards in this thread!

I thought I would add my three cents....

[DeanH3]

Like others, it's tough for me to decide. But I would have to go with either one of these two.

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by btkpath

Wow, so many great cards in this thread!

I thought I would add my three cents....

Those are three show stoppers! Off the hook.

[g_vezina_c55]

Beautifull barry !

[kmac32]

Don't have it and have not ever seen it but I would love to have a Curtis Ireland E 123 card of Elmer Miller. That is my Holy Grail.

[spec]

Originally Posted by kmac32

Don't have it and have not ever seen it but I would love to have a Curtis Ireland E 123 card of Elmer Miller. That is my Holy Grail.

Finally someone who understands the meaning of the term "Holy Grail."

Jackson & Garvey

[David R]

Originally Posted by btkpath

Wow, so many great cards in this thread!

I thought I would add my three cents....

Wow!! Three fantastic cards.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by rgpete

Jackson & Garvey

Ron, I have a project in mind for you. I am absolutely certain that Reggie would approve, especially if you could procure the 'real' grail.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Bump for my new Grail

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