A Tarnished Record

[yanksfan09]

I'm a Yankee fan too. A-Rod is a clown. I was for giving him a second chance after his first admission. I thought he was just a product of his era but since he did this a second time and is a habitual user, I feel no more sympathy for him.

Fans just have to realize for themselves who the true record holders are. They're not Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, A-Rod, etc.... They're Gehrig (GS), Ruth (154 game season & top legitimate HR/AB), Maris (162), Aaron, etc....

[HRBAKER]

I thought he was just a product of his era but since he did this a second time and is a habitual user...................


............and liar.

[kkkkandp]

A buddy of mine (who is a die-hard Red Sox fan) and I were discussing this today while we were playing golf. We easily agreed that the Yankees (and baseball in general) would be better off if A-Hole loses his appeal and the Yankees can void his contract and get him out of the profession.

Is there a more hated man in the game today? Does anyone believe or like this phony?

[HRBAKER]

Does anyone believe or like this phony?

His lawyers like him.

[D.P.Johnson]

Lou Gehrig had unimpeachable integrity. He was a true American hero.

[deucetwins]

Originally Posted by kkkkandp

Is there a more hated man in the game today?

Bud Selig

[cyseymour]

Of course they discovered Mickey Mantle's corked bat recently, so there's another cheater right there... little doubt in my mind that The Mick would have been on the juice if it had been available to him.

The Neikro brothers were also colossal cheats - those guys tried every trick in the book, and got caught, too. Phil still managed to make the Hall. I also think Rickey Henderson juiced towards the end of his career and still snuck in.

It is all a very grey line. A-Rod is a bozo, no doubt. But even without the juice, he would have been an amazing player as a 6'4" shortstop who could hit. Maybe not as much power, but a longer career. Stats would look more like Jeter's.

[Harliduck]

Being from Seattle of course I hate his guts...but the fact he broke a record right now when he has absolutely ZERO right to be playing just sickens me. It would be extremely hard to be his team mate right now. I just can't imagine.

[Rich Klein]

He has the record, MLB is not going to reverse the record but what we feel is fine.

And as generations go by, we're all buried and the only thing left are the numbers; Bonds will still have 762 HR's, A-Rod will still have 24 grannies, Roger Clemens will still have all the Cy Young awards and they all will (just as Pete Rose did) admit the truth some day

Rich

[novakjr]

While I agree with the general sentiment of this thread. Tainted, is tainted. But we are discussing a record for a fluky stat to begin with. While impressive, it's simply situational. Hell, I guarantee there's a ton of players that haven't even had 24 GS opportunities. It's hard to put too much value in a counting stat that doesn't hold all players on an even level based "solely" on what's in their control. It's not like taking steroids suddenly loaded the bases every time he came to the plate..

For the record. I've never held GS, W, S, RBI and a handful of others in a very high regard, in terms of comparisons to other players..