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Old 09-13-2013, 05:01 PM
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we used to look at the set as 150,350 and 460. This is looking at the set by back.

Doyle is print group 3.

Piedmont 350 is in print group 1,2,3,5 and 6.

Doyle is not a 350 only, he is in print group 3.

What I have been saying-do not look at the set by back, look at it by front groups.

I am actually calm, I don't post in bold and caps.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:24 PM
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I have heard that the old time collectors used to group all of their e92's together, without regard to the backs. Not many people today put together a Dockman set and throw in a Croft's and mark it off their list.

I have a nuanced opinion on the T213 issue. I believe that under his thinking, Burdick should have grouped them as T206, but he didn't and that's okay. I would not have been able to collect T213-1 for the prices I did, if he had called them T206. As I have told Ted, some of the best trades I've made on net54 are with Ted Z and Jim R.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:56 PM
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we used to look at the set as 150,350 and 460. This is looking at the set by back.

Doyle is print group 3.

Piedmont 350 is in print group 1,2,3,5 and 6.

Doyle is not a 350 only, he is in print group 3.

What I have been saying-do not look at the set by back, look at it by front groups.

I am actually calm, I don't post in bold and caps.

Who the heck is looking at the T206 set by backs....only ? Are you living in La-La land ?

Jeff Burdick, Lionel Carter, Buck Barker, Bill Heitman, Scot Reader (and others) have well established the T206 structure from both a FRONTS and BACKS perspective.
Many of us long-time T206 collectors are very well versed in the T206 set's player make-up with respect to the various series. I, for one, arrange all my T206 sets in my
albums by series (150, 350-only, 350/460, 460-only, and So. Lgrs)

Many of us T206 "traditionalists" have a complete understanding of this set from a FRONTS and BACKS perspective. And, that your so-called "print groups" are the new way
and only way to view T206's is absolutely ridiculous.

This "new speak" reminds me of the "new math" that was shoved down kids throats in the 1970's. And, very like your print groups, the new math only tended to confuse.

Sorry, but you can keep your confusig print group scheme to yourselves. Many of us will stick to our traditional thinking of the T206 set......for it has led to many ground-
breaking discoveries on this forum these past 7 years....ever since Scot Reader published his book "Inside T206 (2006). It motivated many of us on this forum to delve into
the "nitty-gritty" of The Monster and come up with a better understanding of the T206 set. Furthermore, there was an amazing bunch of guys who were willing to share
their T206 expertise and discoveries with all of us.

Your incessant nasty comments towards anyone on this forum who dares to post their thoughts regarding the T206 set has become tedious and tiresome. So, quit this shit


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Old 09-13-2013, 07:55 PM
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Hey Ted,
The print groups are not "new math"... They actually make it easier to understand the set and it's printing.... And they add up...I wish I had looked at it this way 30 years ago.... You can agree to disagree... But, let's not make this personal. I haven't seen any nasty post by Jim...
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:15 AM
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Default Hi Brian

It was really great to finally meet you after all these years at the National this Summer. I enjoyed talking T206's and other things with you. Thanks for tracking down
my booth.

I see some flaws in the print groups.....the Joe Doyle ERROR card was printed in an early 350-only (PIEDMONT 350) press run and very quickly corrected.

Therefore, Joe Doyle should belong to Print Group #2. As should the initial printing of Kleinow (NY-catching), Nichols (bat), Reulbach (arm extended), and F. Smith (white cap).

Subsequently, American Litho. (ALC) selected these 5 subjects and 61 other subjects for expansion into the 460 series....as is evident by ALC printing these 66 subjects
SOVEREIGN 350 backs with "apple green" ink.


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It was really great to finally meet you after all these years at the National this Summer. I enjoyed talking T206's and other things with you. Thanks for tracking down
my booth.

I see some flaws in the print groups.....the Joe Doyle ERROR card was printed in an early 350-only (PIEDMONT 350) press run and very quickly corrected.

Therefore, Joe Doyle should belong to Print Group #2. As should the initial printing of Kleinow (NY-catching), Nichols (bat), Reulbach (arm extended), and F. Smith (white cap).

Subsequently, American Litho. (ALC) selected these 5 subjects and 61 other subjects for expansion into the 460 series....as is evident by ALC printing these 66 subjects
SOVEREIGN 350 backs with "apple green" ink.


Best regards ole buddy,

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Hey Ted
You know you are one of my favorite guys in the hobby. It's always a pleasure chatting and spending time with you (on the board and in person). That all being said I think the way you present things on the board could be changed a little in order to make them seem not so personal. There really isn't a lot of need to say something is ridiculous because you disagree with it. In my response to you, in this thread, I actually went back and changed some wording before I hit the submit reply button, so it wouldn't seem so personal. If you do that you might be more well received and have a nice polite debate instead of veering off into any personal situations. Just a thought, my friend...Thanks for the discussion..kind regards
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You may choose to fly with








or you may choose one of the other carriers










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Old 09-15-2013, 05:11 PM
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Old 09-15-2013, 09:47 PM
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PIEDMONT 350





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LOOKING for these 6 - T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (75 cards)

AMES (hands over head)....CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:19 PM
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Default T206 fronts/backs Extravaganza......show us what you have ?

Hey guys,
Let's see some more of your T206 beauties. Here's some more of mine.








.. . . .. . . . . . . . . .



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AMES (hands over head)....CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
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Ted

Not the same player but here are some different backs.

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Old 09-16-2013, 07:40 PM
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Pat

Does not have to be the same player......the more the merrier. Anything goes here on this thread.

That certainly is a varied array of T206's with some tough backs. Thanks for sharing them with us.


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Old 09-17-2013, 07:02 PM
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My favorite of the four T206 Cobb's......and, which one do you.favor ?




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AMES (hands over head)....CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)

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Nice cards Ted very nice.
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Old 09-18-2013, 04:37 PM
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Hey big guy, I really appreciate the compliments.

But, mine certainly pale by comparison to yours. So, show us some more of your gems....I never get tired of seeing them.


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Old 09-19-2013, 06:23 PM
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.................................................. ...... Three guys from the "Exclusive 12" group in the 460-only series .................................................
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McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder)
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Here is one for you Ted and T206 geeks.

C.H.A.S.E

Are there any other player last names that can be spelled using the confirmed backs?

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Chris...my head is spinning!!!! COBB would work!!!!

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Here is one for you Ted and T206 geeks.

C.H.A.S.E

Are there any other player last names that can be spelled using the confirmed backs?

Hey Chris and Pete

Very "sexy"....I like the way you guys think.

However, I thought I was a "geek" (or is it a Greek ?) with these T206's......but, you guys are really weird


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Leach would work if you combine both poses.

And, in theory, Stahl word work (unconfirmed Lennox)
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