It's the most wonderful time of the year. Cobb/Edwards auction time!

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by BigJJ

What do you think the value of the card is as the infamous 'Cobb-Edwards Wagner'?

(reminds me of The Three Amigos btw, when they say infamous means -very- famous)

The piece has great fame as a 'hobby' piece.

If there were a hobby museum, would it be there?

Value of 2k? if offered at auction accurately?

I'm sure it would actually fetch a great price for a reprint. Not sure anyone would pay $2k for it, but you never know. Some rich person might just to get it away from them and finally put this to rest.

I have posted scans for years of the same exact reprint they are peddling. Not once has anyone ever offered me anything for it and that is with me saying "It is a reprint" over and over. If I'm certain it's a reprint, and someone in this collecting world is certain it isn't, wouldn't you think that person would say, I'll give you $20 for it just to have it, then they could turn around and make up to $1.5mil apparently?

Not sure why people believe that they are being kept down, yet at the same time they say how many people would love to own this card. I don't think that makes much sense. I've done thousands of ebay/Net54/internet transactions and never once have I asked what color the person is I'm buying from or seen a warning that says "Are you sure you want to buy from this person, they aren't white?".

To suggest everyone in the hobby with the means to buy a Honus Wagner card, somehow got together and decided not to buy this particular card, is ridiculous. If they want to stick to that story though, why is it that they also don't want to buy my card either? I'm guessing it is because my one grandmother was part American-Indian...

[nsaddict]

Pete, is this the guy you spoke with?

Contact:
Proxibid
Dana Kaufman, 402-505-7776
dana.kaufman@proxibid.com

[ullmandds]

No...that appears to be a proxibid rep...not rep from k and k auctions. I spoke to one of the owners of k and k.

[nsaddict]

Not sure if this has been posted before. Funny stuff, Edwards carries on back and forth with doubters and near the bottom Edwards refers to Mastro as the scammer Also, the grading company that slabbed this card ACA, has changed their take on the card and deemed it fake. Is this a fact? The card is being offered raw in this upcoming auction.



http://sportscardinfo.wordpress.com/...s-t206-wagner/

[Wite3]

sent them a note...they totally ignored the subject and proof...no integrity...no business...will add to my "bitch book" of people who I do not do business with.

"thanks for your note... I am sorry to loose your business. This is a very unusual card and there are a lot of opinions about it. I think that the new owner will clearly understand and know everything about this card while placing his or her bids. Please reconsider doing business again with us down the road. Ron"

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

I think the best thing to happen in the whole situation is for it to tell and then the buyer can either be stuck with with it for his serious lack of knowledge or sue Cobb and any other person involved with the sale and hopefully part of the settlement would be the destruction of the card.

[bbcard1]

I think if it were slabbed Cobb/Edwards Wagner, some idiot...probably me...would be willing to pay $1000 because it is an interesting piece of history and would be a nice stand in for a card I would never be able to afford. I'm guessing a fair auction would settle between $1K and 2K.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by z28jd

I have posted scans for years of the same exact reprint they are peddling. Not once has anyone ever offered me anything for it and that is with me saying "It is a reprint" over and over. If I'm certain it's a reprint, and someone in this collecting world is certain it isn't, wouldn't you think that person would say, I'll give you $20 for it just to have it, then they could turn around and make up to $1.5mil apparently?

John, if you have the same reprint, why don't we just make a second one of the 'Cobb/Edwards' card and then try to sell it for $300,000? If no one buys it, or if anyone claims it is a reprint, just scream "reverse discrimination".

(Disclaimer: the above was just a hypothetical which in no way should impact my credibility if I actually locate a Wagner card that just happens to look exactly like the Cincinnati card.)

[Jim F]

Question for the lawyers.

Everyone knows the back story to this card. Every credible source has repeatedly told these guys that the card is fake and they continue their attempts to sell it. Can a charge such as conspiracy to commit fraud be brought against these guys? People are prosecuted all the time for selling fake items and defrauding people on the internet.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by Runscott

John, if you have the same reprint, why don't we just make a second one of the 'Cobb/Edwards' card and then try to sell it for $300,000? If no one buys it, or if anyone claims it is a reprint, just scream "reverse discrimination".

(Disclaimer: the above was just a hypothetical which in no way should impact my credibility if I actually locate a Wagner card that just happens to look exactly like the Cincinnati card.)

Here it is Scott, get the ball rolling! I am 1/8th American Indian, so we could always use that angle for the discrimination

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...0&postcount=30

[wonkaticket]

John, your isn’t your tribal name “Sits With Reprint”, that may be an issue for the plan.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

John, your isn’t your tribal name “Sits With Reprint”, that may be an issue for the plan.

It's actually Dances With Chicken Wolf

[ullmandds]

i'll donate a real t206...i'd happily contribute to the mutilation of a t206!

[Kawika]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

John, isn’t your tribal name “Sits With Reprint”, that may be an issue for the plan.

Why do you ask, Two Dogs Reprinting?

[Runscott]

I also have American Indian blood, so i'll take "Runs with Scissors"

[frankbmd]

Bender to Wagner:

"Did you close the tepee door? It's freezing in here."

Wagner to Bender:

"I'll close it, Chief. You know I've got your back."

attributed to former sportswriter, Red Skinner

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by z28jd

Here it is Scott, get the ball rolling! I am 1/8th American Indian, so we could always use that angle for the discrimination

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...0&postcount=30

I'm up for it if I can get the actual card, and get someone to also donate a real T206 Piedmont card.