It's the most wonderful time of the year. Cobb/Edwards auction time!

[nsaddict]

I'd take Miley for one night over the Cobb/Edwards Wags for life

[Cardboard Junkie]

One night,(for her sake) but I wouldn't make her part of my stable.

[birdman42]

What's the auction company's responsibility? I know that many auctions have ended up with the buyer's money being refunded after an item was determined to be bad. But what about in a situation like this where it's known beforehand that the card is bogus? Does that make them partners in fraud? I can't imagine that they'd get away with saying they relied on the seller's representation of authenticity.

Bill

[Wite3]

Originally Posted by birdman42

What's the auction company's responsibility?
Bill

I will tell you, more than people think...this is a known fake. Period. Selling a known fake, marketing it as real (even the title and description make it seem real) and then putting "as is" and trying to cover yourself with that statement will get you in trouble...just ask Bill Mastro.

Joshua

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie

One night,(for her sake) but I wouldn't make her part of my stable.

My wife won't let me have a stable.

[Leon]

Evidently there is at least one other person that thinks this Frankenstein card is real. I got this message this morning from a guy named Mark..

Leon,
After reading comments made by your board members concerning the newest Honus Wagner Auction I must respectfully decline to join that board.
I want to be part of a board that has a real knowledge about card collecting. A board that uses common sense thinking not some crazy notions that card grading services are the be all to end all.
Leon, card grading services were not around when cards such as a Honus Wagner were printed so they have no clue who printed them and they offer no scientific evidence to disprove the cards validity .
Thanks.





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[barrysloate]

I agree with him Leon. He should be a part of a different board.

[Wite3]

I wonder if "Mark" has the same email address as Ken Krause.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Wite3

I wonder if "Mark" has the same email address as Ken Krause.

His email message had the last name of Spxxxx, and the first part of his email address is

visitingteam62@xxxxxxxx



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[kcohen]

Originally Posted by Leon

Evidently there is at least one other person that thinks this Frankenstein card is real. I got this message this morning from a guy named Mark..

Leon,
After reading comments made by your board members concerning the newest Honus Wagner Auction I must respectfully decline to join that board.
I want to be part of a board that has a real knowledge about card collecting. A board that uses common sense thinking not some crazy notions that card grading services are the be all to end all.
Leon, card grading services were not around when cards such as a Honus Wagner were printed so they have no clue who printed them and they offer no scientific evidence to disprove the cards validity .
Thanks.

Where does this guy get the idea that there is some crazy notion on this forum that TPGs are the be all and end all? Must never have read any of DM's posts.

In another vein, can't tell you how tough it is for me to get my arms around imagining what it would be like to hear you say "oy vey" with your Texas accent.

Maybe hearing Kinky Friedman say it would give me an idea.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Leon

Evidently there is at least one other person that thinks this Frankenstein card is real. I got this message this morning from a guy named Mark..

Leon,
After reading comments made by your board members concerning the newest Honus Wagner Auction I must respectfully decline to join that board.
I want to be part of a board that has a real knowledge about card collecting. A board that uses common sense thinking not some crazy notions that card grading services are the be all to end all.
Leon, card grading services were not around when cards such as a Honus Wagner were printed so they have no clue who printed them and they offer no scientific evidence to disprove the cards validity .
Thanks.

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Sounds very similar to what "goldenarm9" posted as a follow-up comment to the original article that the op linked to:

Goldenarm9
I read that garbage and got a laugh out of it. What you boys do not have
is common sense ...was PSA around when that card or any of them was
printed, i think not , so tell us what printing company printed that
card and what industry standards are PSA supposed to be using to try to
discount that card?
It looks like Cobb-Edwards got the last laugh.

Just more of the age-old tactic of discrediting your accuser rather than backing up your own claim. Why bother making a reasonable argument to prove your point when you can just call your opponent a "dummy" and walk off with a smug look on your face?

[HRBAKER]

Yeah, this board is really "in the bag" for TPG.

[uffda51]

"Scientific evidence?" Grading services?

Helen Keller would know that the card is a fake.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by nsaddict

I'd take Miley for one night over the Cobb/Edwards Wags for life

Not even with someone else's junk...There aren't enough antibiotics in the universe.

[ullmandds]

I work with the daughter of one of the owners of this auction company.

She came in to work a few months ago and asked me if I know anything about Honus Wagner. I said that I know a lot about honus wagner!!!! She said her dad's auction co. had acquired a honus wagner baseball card they were going to auction off. I got very excited...and I pulled a pic off my office tack board and said...does it look like this?!?!(I have a pic of Scott B's Wags on my office wall!)

She had no clue. I asked her to have her dad call me. I couldn't wait I was so excited so I called him...left a message.

While at the airport getting ready to leave town he called me...and I asked him about the card. As he told me the story...I knew exactly which wagner he was referring to...and I asked him if the owner's name was Cobb.

He said yes...and I proceeded to tell him everything I knew about it. He was silent. I emailed him links to this board...and to other stories about this card.

I ensured him this card was 100% fake...and that the only reason he should even consider being a part of this would be that he'd incur lots of publicity...albeit potentially negative.

Obviously he did not heed my warnings...so at this point contacting them will most likely be futile.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Not even with someone else's junk...There aren't enough antibiotics in the universe.

I don’t know Adam, these two idiots are about the same as herpes they seem to pop up every few months.