EXPOSING Net54 member BUBBLEBATHGIRL

[Eric72]

I can understand both sides of the discussion regarding the wrappers, so I really don't want to go there.

However...

Can someone...anyone...tell me what purpose 35 year old gum would have? Other than adding a false element of realism to a resealed pack, of course.

In my opinion, selling the wrappers and the gum is along the same lines as selling cracked open PSA slabs, along with their paper flips.

In either scenario, the buyer will almost certainly put something inside, seal it back up, and try to pass it off as the genuine article.

In this particular case, the seller is making things breathtakingly easy for fraudsters. Making a transaction that is extremely likely to increase the amount of fraud within the hobby is an absolutely shameless act.

Best Regards,

Eric

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Eric72

I can understand both sides of the discussion regarding the wrappers, so I really don't want to go there.

However...

Can someone...anyone...tell me what purpose 35 year old gum would have? Other than adding a false element of realism to a resealed pack, of course.

In my opinion, selling the wrappers and the gum is along the same lines as selling cracked open PSA slabs, along with their paper flips.

In either scenario, the buyer will almost certainly put something inside, seal it back up, and try to pass it off as the genuine article.

In this particular case, the seller is making things breathtakingly easy for fraudsters. Making a transaction that is extremely likely to increase the amount of fraud within the hobby is an absolutely shameless act.

Best Regards,

Eric

Bush doctrine as applied to baseball cards.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

So someone starts a thread entitled, EXPOSING Net54 member BUBBLEBATHGIRL and it ends up being about baseball cards? Bummer.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

So someone starts a thread entitled, EXPOSING Net54 member BUBBLEBATHGIRL and it ends up being about baseball cards? Bummer.

Here ya go!

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Thanks!

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

So someone starts a thread entitled, EXPOSING Net54 member BUBBLEBATHGIRL and it ends up being about baseball cards? Bummer.

I did a search for some relevant photos but most of them would not pass the forum rules for posting. I hope this pic doesn't offend anyone and will satisfy the forum rules:

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Bush doctrine as applied to baseball cards.

Weapons of mass gum and wrapper destruction?

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Just thinking about some guy who's named himself BubbleBathGirl sitting around meticulously opening up packs of 1978 baseball cards gives me the creeps (in a "Silence of the Lambs" kinda way...)...The whole situation is freakishly wrong on many different levels...

Dan, you mean, kinda like this....?

Originally Posted by WhenItWasAHobby

So someone starts a thread entitled, EXPOSING Net54 member BUBBLEBATHGIRL and it ends up being about baseball cards? Bummer.

Dan, I'm with you.

Originally Posted by Eric72

Can someone...anyone...tell me what purpose 35 year old gum would have? Other than adding a false element of realism to a resealed pack, of course.

I cannot think of a one, Eric.

[itslarry]

I guess I should start marking all my cards with sharpie so no one will try to use my cheap commons for something nefarious like rebacking.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Bush doctrine as applied to baseball cards.

Peter,

It appears as though you may disagree with my assessment. With all due respect, I ask the following:

Which part(s) of my post do you take exception to, and why?

I look forward to your reply.

Best Regards,

Eric

[Peter_Spaeth]

Huh? I was simply observing that your position that someone who facilitates a fraud is equally guilty as the fraudster is the baseball card equivalent of the Bush doctrine applied to terrorism. To wit: 1."Make no distinction between terrorists and the nations that harbor them--and hold both to account."

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Huh? I was simply observing that your position that someone who facilitates a fraud is equally guilty as the fraudster is the baseball card equivalent of the Bush doctrine applied to terrorism. To wit: 1."Make no distinction between terrorists and the nations that harbor them--and hold both to account."

Do you not agree that those who knowingly help the fraudster are also guilty? I happen to think that they are.

On the Internet, I set my sarcasm meter to zero. If this is the cause of the friction I sense, then please accept my sincerest apologies.

Best Regards,

Eric

[Peter_Spaeth]

Yeah I definitely agree. For example, I think the auction houses who knowingly serve as the outlet for card doctors should be held equally accountable as the card doctors -- that is, if any of them ever are held accountable.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yeah I definitely agree. For example, I think the auction houses who knowingly serve as the outlet for card doctors should be held equally accountable as the card doctors -- that is, if any of them ever are held accountable.

Peter,

This board actually does have the power to hold individuals and corporations to account. My initial post was a thinly veiled call to action. In no way did I mean to take you to the mat, personally.

In summary, those who perpetrate fraud within our hobby are pathetic, shameless trolls.

And my posts within this thread are a direct assault on Pauley (BubbleBathGirl.)

Best Regards,

Eric

[brob28]

Originally Posted by Eric72

I can understand both sides of the discussion regarding the wrappers, so I really don't want to go there.

However...

Can someone...anyone...tell me what purpose 35 year old gum would have? Other than adding a false element of realism to a resealed pack, of course.

In my opinion, selling the wrappers and the gum is along the same lines as selling cracked open PSA slabs, along with their paper flips.

In either scenario, the buyer will almost certainly put something inside, seal it back up, and try to pass it off as the genuine article.

In this particular case, the seller is making things breathtakingly easy for fraudsters. Making a transaction that is extremely likely to increase the amount of fraud within the hobby is an absolutely shameless act.

Best Regards,

Eric

Can't be said any better Eric, you hit the nail on the head. Thank you OP, you've identified another person I will avoid.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Eric72

Can someone...anyone...tell me what purpose 35 year old gum would have? Other than adding a false element of realism to a resealed pack, of course.

I have a piece of gum from 1971 OPC that I bought along with a wrapper sometime between 1978 and 83. I thought it was sort of cool that it had survived. Not as an unopened pack, but as a wrapper and gum. It's also really different than the Topps gum -Different size, and with lines scored across it so it could be broken into dentyne sized chunks.

Topps also had some different flavored gum in hockey cards in the mid 70's. I remember it from buying the packs and being surprised to see yellow gum. I think it was bananna flavored. If I found an opened pack that had it, I'd buy it just for the curiosity.

I don't really get the idea of marking the wrappers. Would it be acceptable to mark ANY other bit of memorabilia? Look in the Autograph section and see how little they like the stickers used by the authenticators. Or look at how disliked any form of grading/slabbing is by some here. And that doesn't even mark the cards. I have a small collection of wrappers, and I'd be looking for replacements for marked ones. Same goes for the empty display boxes.
A whole stack of old gum though.....Not sure I'd want that.

Steve B