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Old 09-02-2013, 09:18 PM
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Law enforcement reads the forum; one can hope.
Yeah I would not hold your breath...If eBay received enough complaints about the bid retraction history I am sure they would look into it and would apply pressure to sellers who are using or allowing this to take place.

Question for the lawyers...eBay earns a fee based on the final sale's price so if they look the other way on this type of shill bidding, if one were to sue could they be named in the suit? I figure for selfish reason they might want to step in and attempt to prevent this type of bidding activity.
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:22 PM
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I honestly don't understand why (every week) this comes as shock to some people. Rick (or any other consignor) doesn't give a shit, and I can't say I blame them. It's like a big bank that makes $1B on a sketchy deal, gets caught and gets fined by the SEC for $500M. Until the punishment outweighs the benefit of the crime, it's business as usual.
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I honestly don't understand why (every week) this comes as shock to some people. Rick (or any other consignor) doesn't give a shit, and I can't say I blame them. It's like a big bank that makes $1B on a sketchy deal, gets caught and gets fined by the SEC for $500M. Until the punishment outweighs the benefit of the crime, it's business as usual.
Until the first grand jury subpoena for his records comes.
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Was interested on bidding. Took a look at the bid history and the high bidder. 22 bid retractions in 6 months? I'm not sure what is a high #, but that sounds high to me. I may be wrong and i am not accusing anyone of anything.


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Bidder: u***r ( 2026Feedback score is 1000 to 4,999)
Feedback: 100% Positive
Item description: Item Title: 1954 Wilson Franks Ted Williams PSA 4 VGEX (PWCC)
Bids on this item: 3

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Total bids: 405
Items bid on: 84
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 17% Help
Bid retractions: 3
Bid retractions (6 months): 22
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:13 PM
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Was interested on bidding. Took a look at the bid history and the high bidder. 22 bid retractions in 6 months? I'm not sure what is a high #, but that sounds high to me. I may be wrong and i am not accusing anyone of anything.
I have been on eBay since May of 1997 and I have never retracted a single bid. I am sure that most members here would say the same. 22 in 6 months is astounding. This particular bidder is either checking high bids and then retracting or he needs take a typing class so he does not make so many key stroke errors.
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I have been on eBay since May of 1997 and I have never retracted a single bid. I am sure that most members here would say the same. 22 in 6 months is astounding. This particular bidder is either checking high bids and then retracting or he needs take a typing class so he does not make so many key stroke errors.
I might have retracted one or two bids in fourteen years but I don't ever remember doing it.
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The simple solution is that Ebay limits bid retractions. The answer is plain as day.

Ebay logic however, is not.
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I have been on eBay since May of 1997 and I have never retracted a single bid. I am sure that most members here would say the same. 22 in 6 months is astounding. This particular bidder is either checking high bids and then retracting or he needs take a typing class so he does not make so many key stroke errors.
I also don't ever recall retracting a bid in my 14 years of eBay activity.
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I also don't ever recall retracting a bid in my 14 years of eBay activity.
Consign some cards, it's never too late.
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I have been on eBay since May of 1997 and I have never retracted a single bid. I am sure that most members here would say the same. 22 in 6 months is astounding. This particular bidder is either checking high bids and then retracting or he needs take a typing class so he does not make so many key stroke errors.
2 retractions in 10+ years each retraction was because of my clumsy typing i.e. entered 1000.00 vs. 100.00 or something. After each retraction I reentered my bid on the item….
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2 retractions in 10+ years each retraction was because of my clumsy typing i.e. entered 1000.00 vs. 100.00 or something. After each retraction I reentered my bid on the item….
None for me in 13 years, but I did once bid $900 instead of $90. Luckily no one else accidentally bid $800.
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2 retractions in 10+ years each retraction was because of my clumsy typing i.e. entered 1000.00 vs. 100.00 or something. After each retraction I reentered my bid on the item….

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Until the first grand jury subpoena for his records comes.
Sure...but see my last sentence.
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