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Old 08-30-2013, 06:33 PM
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From memory Jim Crandell used to make statements to the effect that he didn't believe any of his cards were altered, but he is a very smart guy and I always suspected there was an element of bluster there.
Ya think just an element of bluster? Jim knew/knows what is going on. Considering where we was getting some of his high grade stuff I would absolutely guarantee the cards were altered to the max!
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Old 08-31-2013, 09:25 AM
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Since there is not going to be another response from this person maybe now it is time to start taking some action against what has happened?

How much is an advertising spot on this forum? Can we put up a banner ad?

A simple banner saying "Josepth Pankiewicz alters cards and resubmits them for higher grades" would be sufficient.

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Old 08-31-2013, 11:41 AM
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Other than more ad revenue for Leon, what would that accomplish? Not trying to be snarky, just realistic. He could always submit under a different name.
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:29 PM
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Other than more ad revenue for Leon, what would that accomplish? Not trying to be snarky, just realistic. He could always submit under a different name.
Unfortunately, you're probably correct. If he lived in the foothills of Northern California, I could have a couple of my associates swing by his house for a quick visit. Heck, since he seems like a pretty nice guy, they might even be able to convince him to submit some of his own personal PSA/DNA on the barrel of a Louisville Slugger...
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Old 08-31-2013, 01:36 PM
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Unfortunately, you're probably correct. If he lived in the foothills of Northern California, I could have a couple of my associates swing by his house for a quick visit. Heck, since he seems like a pretty nice guy, they might even be able to convince him to submit some of his own personal PSA/DNA on the barrel of a Louisville Slugger...
I would just like to see him "come clean" and stop doing it. Expose everybody involved if there is a conspiracy. Dave.
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:11 PM
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I would just like to see him "come clean" and stop doing it. Expose everybody involved if there is a conspiracy. Dave.
I think if someone in NJ swung by house and had a little chat with him, he'd probably stop doing it...I'm just guessing though...
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:19 PM
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ha ha ha ha! Dave
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:36 PM
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I would just like to see him "come clean" and stop doing it. Expose everybody involved if there is a conspiracy. Dave.
Someone sent me a PM and asked me why I put his name back in title. I told them that I felt Joe didn't hold up his end of the bargain. Had he come clean and admitted everything (as it is all right there for everyone to see), I would have left his name out of the title. But since he came here and only defended his character and didn't address the doctoring, shilling, etc., I put his name back into the title.

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Old 08-31-2013, 12:13 PM
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Jim Crandell has a testimonial on PSA's website. It's also worth reading Ken Kendrick's and Brian Seigel's testimonials in light of the Mastro T206 Wagner PSA 8 debacle.

http://www.psacard.com/About/Testimonials

The problem I see with all of these testimonials is that there is a an on-going theme of blind confidence with no persuasive proof of PSA's ability to detect alterations. Nowhere does anyone say, "I deliberately doctored some cards to see if they would get detected by PSA and when I submitted them, PSA caught each and every type of alteration."
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Old 08-31-2013, 12:52 PM
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Jim Crandell has a testimonial on PSA's website. It's also worth reading Ken Kendrick's and Brian Seigel's testimonials in light of the Mastro T206 Wagner PSA 8 debacle.

http://www.psacard.com/About/Testimonials

The problem I see with all of these testimonials is that there is a an on-going theme of blind confidence with no persuasive proof of PSA's ability to detect alterations. Nowhere does anyone say, "I deliberately doctored some cards to see if they would get detected by PSA and when I submitted them, PSA caught each and every type of alteration."

Does anyone in this day and age really doubt that submitters who exclusively use one grading company and submit thousands and thousands of cards to them for grading, don't receive better grades than Sam P. Collector who submits a handful of cards a year? These testimonials are a joke.
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