Hauls of Shame - Who is Peter Nash?

[rc4157]

OK, I read some of the early threads on this and then came back to it today.

I'm with the oldies.....Beatles, Elvis. etc.....

I have no idea who some of these other performers are/were....it will probably stay that way.
RC

[Al C.risafulli]

Pop-pop goes the weasel.

-Al

[wonkaticket]

Robert, great post. Hopefully you can be made solid on this mess one day shame you as a collector have been a victim of such bad stuff. Not to mention the threats about folks coming to "break your legs" correct?

Also those great photos that seemed to not add up from our good pal Mr. Nash.

Seems our white knight of hobby cleanup is rather dirty and like many of the trophy balls he once owned quite tarnished.

Cheers,

John

P.S. I’ll be on the lookout for the Henry Chadwick umbrella soon.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Robert, great post. Hopefully you can be made solid on this mess one day shame you as a collector have been a victim of such bad stuff. Not to mention the threats about folks coming to "break your legs" correct?

Also those great photos that seemed to not add up from our good pal Mr. Nash.

Seems our white knight of hobby cleanup is rather dirty and like many of the trophy balls he once owned quite tarnished.

Cheers,

John

P.S. I’ll be on the lookout for the Henry Chadwick umbrella soon.

John, it is true that Peter Nash did threaten me to have my legs broken because my wife, Lisa and I refused to sell the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy to him and McGreevy’s Bar in Boston, MA. (Nash has a minority stake in McGreevy’s bar). Here are a few paragraphs from the lawsuit which was a verified complaint when we sued the Nash’s.

69. Nash told Robert that the Frasers would make a “great profit” by selling the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy to him, as he would pay the most because he needed to have it for McGreevy’s.

70. Robert told Nash that he and Lisa had decided to put the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy up for auction to obtain the best price possible.

71. Nash became extremely angry and threatened Robert, saying that if the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy were not sold to him he would “send someone to break your legs”. (The threat was reported to law enforcement authorities.) Nash went on to state, “If you put the [1912 Red Sox World Series] Trophy up for auction, I will interfere with the sale.”

It should be noted that Nash lied to his partners at McGreevy’s by claiming he owned 50% of the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy. The truth is Nash had no ownership in the trophy and he was worried that his partners would sue or remove him for lying to them about the true ownership of the 1912 trophy.

The email below is an Exhibit Peter Nash used in a Certification to the court. He wanted Ken Casey one his partners at McGreevy’s Bar to testify to this audio tape/transcript. (Ken Casey is the singer for the Dropkick Murphys). Ken Casey must have been delighted that Peter Nash wanted him to testify to this audio tape/transcript. It’s shocking that Nash could actually think that this statement could help him, it only helped my lawsuit. In plain English it’s delusional! Definition of delusional in the Encarta Dictionary: English (North America)

1. False belief - a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence, especially as a symptom of a psychiatric condition

2. Mistaken notion - a false or mistaken belief or idea about something

From: "Peter Nash"
To: "Erin l. Henderson"
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Audio Tape/transcript
Erin,
The audio tape with the phone voice mail from my partner Ken Casey took place on Saturday April 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pm FROM xxx-xxx-xxxx. (22 SECONDS)

Vice Mail Transcript:

Ken Casey: Pete, it's Kenny. I got that 150 cash. let's get down there with a f**kin bag of money and a baseball bat and a f**kin pen and a piece of paper. Give me a call back.


Peter

PS I have the tape, don't have a dupe deck?

[Rich Klein]

But love certain songs from the 60's
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvMBxlu62c0

[wonkaticket]

Unreal Robert, I heard rough details but that's crazy. Hopefully when folks stop talking music they will take notice of what you have shared here. It's really quite the insight into Mr. Nash.

Thanks again for sharing.

Cheers,

John

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Unreal Robert, I heard rough details but that's crazy. Hopefully when folks stop talking music they will take notice of what you have shared here. It's really quite the insight into Mr. Nash.

Thanks again for sharing.

Cheers,

John

John, I would like to share more insight about Peter Nash but in reality I would have to write a book to tell you everything. I guess a good name for the book would be "Peter Nash the Bernie Madoff of Baseball Memorabilia". I first met Peter Nash in the summer of 1995 at his “American Baseball Archives and Wax Museum” in Cooperstown, NY. I was visiting my best friend that owns a house in Cooperstown and this friend was dating Peter Nash's sister in law, Rochelle. My friend became close friends with Mr. Nash and so did I. I was friends with Peter Nash for 13 years and we were very close friends for about 10 of those years until Mr. Nash threaten to have my legs broken because I wouldn't sell the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy to him. It was like he turned into the devil! It was unbelievable! The sound of his voice was pure evil! From that day on our friendship was over! We were such good friends, I trusted him with the keys of my house and whenever he was in the area he would sleep over. When my wife, Lisa and I put the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy up for sale Nash interfered with the sale and he did this knowing that my wife had breast cancer. And to make matters worst I found out that Nash had a fraudulent sale agreement that he had signed saying he had purchased the 1912 Red Sox World Series Trophy. We also found out that Nash had stolen 6 items from us when my wife, Lisa and I purchased the 1912 WS Trophy. Those items stolen were 5 original 1912 world series photos and a 1912 World Series gold diamond stickpin. The Judge Order Nash to return the stolen items to us. The 5 photos have been returned to us by Nash's previous attorney but the 1912 gold diamond stickpin has not been returned. I guess criminal charges will have to be filed! I'm tired and going to bed I'll post more when I get a chance.

[slidekellyslide]

Let's stop talking about music in this thread and keep it on track please.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Let's stop talking about music in this thread and keep it on track please.

To explain further this means that Dan wants

more Blood, Sweat & Tears

instead of

more Blood, Sweat & Tears,

I think.

Disclaimer: Wrong era and genre, but so I am.

[btcarfagno]

Wait a minute. Hold up. If I spent the 90's listening to retro swing and ska from bands like Squirrel Nut Zippers and Dem Brooklyn Bums and Indigo Swing and Lee Press On And The Nails etc....

....does that make me a loser? No? Who's with me? Squirrel Nut Zippers? Anyone?

Maybe not.

Tom C

[judsonhamlin]

Loved the Squirrel Nut Zippers and the ska revival - reel big fish, save ferris, etc...

To get back to the thread, I fully understand the "send a thief to catch a thief" which is a necessary evil for law enforcement agencies, but it seems Nash has gone beneath and beyond what is tolerable.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Sunny

From: "Peter Nash"
To: "Erin l. Henderson"
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:43 AM
Subject: Audio Tape/transcript
Erin,
The audio tape with the phone voice mail from my partner Ken Casey took place on Saturday April 19th, 2008 at 4:24 pm FROM xxx-xxx-xxxx. (22 SECONDS)

Vice Mail Transcript:

Ken Casey: Pete, it's Kenny. I got that 150 cash. let's get down there with a f**kin bag of money and a baseball bat and a f**kin pen and a piece of paper. Give me a call back.


Peter

PS I have the tape, don't have a dupe deck?

Robert,
Isn't it time to let bygones be bygones? I mean, in a week it will be TWO years ago!! People change! Peter changed! He is a Crusader For All That Is Good And Ethical.

Now back off or else. I can still swing a bat and I could use the money, if you know what I mean.

[Runscott]

BAM!

Wow - I took credit for an idea that JAY actually came up with

This thread has it all: 'where is the provenance?', etc:

2003 Net 54 discussion about 1869 Red Stockings Clock Full 'o Balls

[Cardboard Junkie]

Ten Years After.......there I worked in a musical reference and it remains relevant to the mentioned thread! Dave.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Robert,
Isn't it time to let bygones be bygones? I mean, in a week it will be TWO years ago!! People change! Peter changed! He is a Crusader For All That Is Good And Ethical.

Now back off or else. I can still swing a bat and I could use the money, if you know what I mean.

Jim, the above Nash is a “Crusader for All” is meant to be tongue and cheek correct? Also for the record, if somebody threatened to break my legs, and ripped me off not sure why I would need to let it go two years later or ever for that matter. Not letting these little gems go doesn’t make Robert a bad man here how can anyone in there right mind turn that around on him? He’s a victim of this set of circumstances not the perpetrator. Again if you were joking please ignore.

If not and you're sincere in your statement then I have to wonder how you or anyone else can support someone who is so quick to point everyone else’s frauds yet won’t come clean on his own.

As said a million times all of which seem to fall on deaf ears both Peter’s and his fans.

When Peter comes clean, pays his bills or makes a real attempt to. Faces his legal issues head on vs. hiding and taking the fifth. Then and only then after that little baptism by fire will I consider defending Peter Nash’s new turned over leaf and self-appointed position of “hobby crusader”. Until then he’s just a another conman who is putting up smoke screens to draw attention away from his own current issues and abysmal past.

[joeadcock]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

When Peter comes clean, pays his bills or makes a real attempt to. Faces his legal issues head on vs. hiding and taking the fifth. Then and only then after that little baptism by fire will I consider defending Peter Nash’s new turned over leaf and self-appointed position of “hobby crusader”. Until then he’s just a another conman who is putting up smoke screens to draw attention away from his own current issues and abysmal past.

Having now spent a bit of time reading this and prior thread about Mr. Nash, it would seem coming clean, via forms mentioned above would be his redemption...........as mentioned in the Bible, knowledge of past deeds means you must try and fix them as humanely possible before moving on(so to speak). Otherwise, trust is lacking.

Dont know anything about these groups mentioned above. Out in Florida, didn't hear much about them........some of my faves:GTR and Expose(in love with them during the post disco days).

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Jim, the above Nash is a “Crusader for All” is meant to be tongue and cheek correct? Also for the record, if somebody threatened to break my legs, and ripped me off not sure why I would need to let it go two years later or ever for that matter. Not letting these little gems go doesn’t make Robert a bad man here how can anyone in there right mind turn that around on him? He’s a victim of this set of circumstances not the perpetrator. Again if you were joking please ignore.

If not and you're sincere in your statement then I have to wonder how you or anyone else can support someone who is so quick to point everyone else’s frauds yet won’t come clean on his own.

As said a million times all of which seem to fall on deaf ears both Peter’s and his fans.

When Peter comes clean, pays his bills or makes a real attempt to. Faces his legal issues head on vs. hiding and taking the fifth. Then and only then after that little baptism by fire will I consider defending Peter Nash’s new turned over leaf and self-appointed position of “hobby crusader”. Until then he’s just a another conman who is putting up smoke screens to draw attention away from his own current issues and abysmal past.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

When Peter comes clean, pays his bills or makes a real attempt to. Faces his legal issues head on vs. hiding and taking the fifth. Then and only then after that little baptism by fire will I consider defending Peter Nash’s new turned over leaf and self-appointed position of “hobby crusader”. Until then he’s just a another conman who is putting up smoke screens to draw attention away from his own current issues and abysmal past.

Travis thinks this thread is a bust because of the criticism directed towards Peter Nash.

Travis does the same thing when Todd Mueller is the subject of criticism.

[E93]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

When Peter comes clean, pays his bills or makes a real attempt to. Faces his legal issues head on vs. hiding and taking the fifth. Then and only then after that little baptism by fire will I consider defending Peter Nash’s new turned over leaf and self-appointed position of “hobby crusader”. Until then he’s just a another conman who is putting up smoke screens to draw attention away from his own current issues and abysmal past.

+1

There is not a small amount of irony in a person accused and found liable in court for $100,000s of fraud in this hobby started a website to start slinging accusations at others before cleaning up his own side of the street. Personally, I would not believe a word he says on that website.
JimB

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Al C.risafulli

Pop-pop goes the weasel.

-Al

'cause the weasel goes pop?


The weasel in question definitely needs to go 'pop'.

[PhilNap]

What? No love for Big Daddy Kane from this crew?