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Old 08-28-2013, 06:14 PM
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I think it would be extremely helpful if Joe would comment on the specific cards in question rather than just speaking in generalities about his practices. I feel like his response somewhat skirts the issue rather than directly addressing it.

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Old 08-28-2013, 06:29 PM
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I wish I had the eye to see the undergraded cards & the guts to bust them out and submit them. I have never done so, but I don't think it is altering if you erase a mark from a card with an eraser. I think this guy is just using his experience in being a professional grader to purchase cards. If I had his experience I would do the same. As far as bidding on his own items, I don't know if he has done so & haven't seen any proof of it.

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Old 08-28-2013, 06:34 PM
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I wish I had the eye to see the undergraded cards & the guts to bust them out and submit them. I have never done so, but I don't think it is altering if you erase a mark from a card with an eraser. I think this guy is just using his experience in being a professional grader to purchase cards. If I had his experience I would do the same. As far as bidding on his own items, I don't know if he has done so & haven't seen any proof of it.

Just my two cents.
I think there's some pretty solid evidence he shilled Probstein's auctions of his own items...it's all in the bid history.

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Old 08-28-2013, 06:59 PM
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Maybe you shoud lay out, with hard imperical evidence in a very logical fashion, why you believe he schilled his own auction.
He's shilled many of his auctions. Here is just one example. On June 10, 2013, eBay member gpark73, which is Joe Pankiewicz, purchased the 1954 Topps Hockey #32 Camille Henry PSA 7 card shown below in the first pic. It was eBay item #370827911540 and here is a link to the original auction…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-H...p2047675.l2557

The second screen shot is of the bid history, showing him as the winning bidder.

The card was re-submitted to PSA and this time came back as a PSA 8.5 as shown in the third pic below. Then, it was consigned to Probstein123, eBay item #370876222931 and here is a link to that auction…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Topps-3...p2047675.l2557

During the auction, Joe placed three shill bids as can be seen in the bidding history, last screen shot below.

Since then, Joe has changed his eBay username from gpark73 to cgseller89, but the bid history, feedback, etc also changes with it making it easy to track. He can run, but he can’t hide. Therefore, I just proved him a shill bidder and in my opinion he is a disgrace to the hobby.

Joe, attorneys can be expensive. If your attorney has anything to say to me, just PM me and I’ll give you my contact information saving your attorney some time and you some money.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:03 PM
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WOW, Just WOW!!!! Nice work David!!
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:26 PM
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WOW, Just WOW!!!! Nice work David!!
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The guy is brilliant.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:36 PM
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The guy is brilliant.
Add me to the list. Nice work
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:44 PM
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The guy is brilliant.
I said it in the other thread, but I want to say it again here too just to be clear. Some of this information I was able to come up with on my own, however a lot was sent to me via PM and email from many other sources (some of which really surprised me). I certainly don't want to take credit when others helped me out a lot. I think they wish to remain anonymous, but they're more than welcome to chime in and take credit where credit is due.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:52 PM
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This guy is as arrogant as they come. Not only does he demand that the other thread's title be changed (as if he should have a say one way or the other), but then he comes here and makes his own thread proclaiming himself to be holier than thou.

He didn't address any of the issues specifically, but gave some generic reasoning that he really seems to believe makes everything okay.

Something stinks in here

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Old 08-28-2013, 07:52 PM
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I said it in the other thread, but I want to say it again here too just to be clear. Some of this information I was able to come up with on my own, however a lot was sent to me via PM and email from many other sources (some of which really surprised me). I certainly don't want to take credit when others helped me out a lot. I think they wish to remain anonymous, but they're more than welcome to chime in and take credit where credit is due.
You're putting it all together and making it very easy to understand. That's not easy to do. I truly appreciate the work you're putting into this and also would like to thank those that have assisted you. Kudos!
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:28 PM
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WOW, Just WOW!!!! Nice work David!!
Yep, good job so far, David. I have a feeling there's more to reveal.

Of course, it would be tough to accept the fact that someone so honest, hard-working, innovative, knowledgeable and reputable as Mr. Pankiewicz could stoop to such a level as to actually shill bid one of his own auctions.

Let it be known that this should not be construed as an attack ( ) , but rather a statement of fact and my incredulous disbelief that someone who happens to have a long resume of accomplishments in the sportscard industry, has hundreds of long-time customers that enjoy buying from him and selling to him, and has made a countless number of friends that are big names and small names in the industry that respect him as a reputable sportscard dealer, would actually artificially inflate the bidding on one of his auctions. WOW!

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Old 08-28-2013, 07:36 PM
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Default David, how do you know...

serious question from a naïve person:
how do you know that gpark73 = that 9***8 or whatever shows up in the bidding history?
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:39 PM
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how do you know that gpark73 = that 9***8 or whatever shows up in the bidding history?
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Because he was the winning bidder and the user ID of the winning bidder is 9***8

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Old 08-28-2013, 07:49 PM
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Because he was the winning bidder and the user ID of the winning bidder is 9***8

Greg
Exactly, and that doesn't change. It remains the same, no matter what he bid on and/or wins. Once you know the eBay username, it's very easy to track and confirm from there.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:42 PM
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how do you know that gpark73 = that 9***8 or whatever shows up in the bidding history?
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There is some e-bay link where you can check the actual bids people have placed I don't know what it is anymore though.
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:06 PM
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If your attorney has anything to say to me, just PM me and I’ll give you my contact information saving your attorney some time and you some money.
I actually posted my contact info for someone once because they said they were going to sue for Liable. Think the guy was from down South somewhere

awesome research BTW
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Old 08-29-2013, 01:06 PM
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I actually posted my contact info for someone once because they said they were going to sue for Liable. Think the guy was from down South somewhere

awesome research BTW

I can relate. I once got threatened with deformation of character.
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Old 08-29-2013, 01:13 PM
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I can relate. I once got threatened with deformation of character.
I hate it when someone threatens to deform my character. I have enough deformities anyway.
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I hate it when someone threatens to deform my character. I have enough deformities anyway.
Well, Howe McCormick may have been guilty of deformation of your cardboard, Ed, but I thought we were talking about the reformation of cardboard in this instance.
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You mean like what Charles Schultz did to Charlie Brown's head?
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