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[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by Leon

No, that is not against board rules. Our board is very open. You have your real name out here so say what you want to. And I know this isn't a concern right now but it's worth repeating that everyone is always legally liable for what they say on a message board. That being said you should not generally post contact info publicly, on this board, without the other parties consent. Exceptions are made where there is fraud involved. Then I don't give a rat's ass about outing the bad guys. Why would I? (but whomever does that better have their ducks in a row )

Ok. Thanks Leon. Since I can't prove fraud has been committed, I won't publically post his contact information...

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Ok. Thanks Leon. Since I can't prove fraud has been committed, I won't publically post his contact information...

Schilling is fraud. If you obtain his contact information and prefer not to post it, then PM me with the information and I'll post it.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Schilling is fraud. If you obtain his contact information and prefer not to post it, then PM me with the information and I'll post it.

Curt "Schilling", or auction "shilling?"

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Curt "Schilling", or auction "shilling?"

Maybe they're both frauds

[barrysloate]

So you think that bloody sock was a scam?

[Tao_Moko]

If you're willing to pay more money for a number on a flip inside a piece of crap plastic then are you not driving the efforts of those trying to take advantage of it? Are you really a baseball card collector if it's the slip you're concerned with?

I believe there was much less abundant fraud when I bought cards from *bay back in the days prior to rampant grading. Somewhat unrelated - I miss the days of getting "Four Base Hits" in the mail and placing an order hoping that mine arrived first and a card would arrive in a small brown box. That was exciting.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

I believe there was much less abundant fraud when I bought cards from *bay back in the days prior to rampant grading.

While I don't totally agree with this statement, I do agree that TPG have given scammers a new avenue that wasn't there before. TPG has cut down on a lot of doctoring, but has opened up new worlds of fraud in other ways.....and it all nets out zero (except, of course, for that $17/card they now charge).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson

Ok. Thanks Leon. Since I can't prove fraud has been committed, I won't publically post his contact information...

LOL....yes, I would say that if you accuse someone publicly of fraud you better be able to prove it. If someone accuses me of that then the next call they will get is from my lawyer ....

And there are a ton of new people on the board so to reiterate what everyone knows, who has been on the board a long time, no one including me or any company, advertiser or not, is off limits. I get a little defensive when folks say that I protect any person or company, as I have never done that, nor will I. It goes against what I believe in.