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[conor912]

How many times have you been to a postcard show or a used bookstore where the seller has written the price in pencil right on the item? It's a non-issue for most all other paper collectibles and somehow with baseball cards it became this massive felony and subsequent witch hunt for those erasing them. Not only do I buy cards with pencil on them, I seek them out then erase them. Sure I do so with the intention of keeping and not selling, but that's the worst double standard I've ever heard. Even if I keep everything until I die, at some point my collection will be on the market again, including....gasp....cards with erased pencil. If that makes me a card doctor, then whatever.

The second card is way dicier, IMO. I often look at the edge wear:corner wear ratio and those edges are way too clean to have beat up corners like those. A couple corners even look rebuilt to me. That said, there are plenty of collectors out there, on this board included, who believe a card is worthless until its graded and then once it is, TPGs can do no wrong.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by conor912

Even if I keep everything until I die, at some point my collection will be on the market again, including....gasp....cards with erased pencil. If that makes me a card doctor, then whatever.

You miss the point. It's all about intent. In your situation, you're not trying to deceive anyone, while the person that altered these cards is/was. If you still don't understand, I don't know how to explain it any other way.

[conor912]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

You miss the point. It's all about intent. In your situation, you're not trying to deceive anyone, while the person that altered these cards is/was. If you still don't understand, I don't know how to explain it any other way.

So if i die and my wife (who knows nothing about cards) sells my collection to, say, you....and you detect the erased pencil on a card, you're going to say to yourself "Oh, it's ok. It wasn't erased with the intention of deceiving me so I'm fine with it?" No, you're going to (hopefully gently) explain to my wife that you believe the card is altered and that you'd like a refund.

Believe me, I understand perfectly, but I respectfully disagree with you, which is fine. We all have a stance and I'm just stating mine.