OT: 4000 Hits for Suzuki

[AndrewJerome]

As a life long M's fan, great to see Ichiro get to 4,000.

Adding up MLB and minor league hits, don't forget about Jigger Statz: 737 MLB + 3,356 = 4,093 total.

Andrew

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by AndrewJerome

As a life long M's fan, great to see Ichiro get to 4,000.

Adding up MLB and minor league hits, don't forget about Jigger Statz: 737 MLB + 3,356 = 4,093 total.

Andrew

Andrew, thanks, I will update the list. If y'all know of others that should be up there let me know.

[MVSNYC]

I wouldn't be comparing his Japan hits to minor league hits. i know Japan isn't MLB, but i think those hits have more weight than the minors.

[RCMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

I wouldn't be comparing his Japan hits to minor league hits. i know Japan isn't MLB, but i think those hits have more weight than the minors.

I'm just having some fun with the list. As Parcells would say, "you are what your record says you are"

I feel much better about comparing Ichiro to Jigger Statz than I do mentioning him with Tris Speaker and Stan Musial.

[timber63401]

I just wish he started in the Majors at about 21.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

I wouldn't be comparing his Japan hits to minor league hits. i know Japan isn't MLB, but i think those hits have more weight than the minors.

ESPN had an article about just this comparison. Taking into consideration that Japanese ball is like AAA+ but also that they play a 130 game season, park size, etc., if Ichiro had played 100% in MLB he would be within 40 hits of where he is now.

[oldjudge]

Congratulations to Ichiro. He is the best right fielder I have ever seen.

[RCMcKenzie]

I think Ichiro is an amazing player and a deserving HOFer. The player he reminds me of is Rod Carew, who was one of my favorite players that I saw play, along with Brett and Rose.

Hank Aaron played right field and I saw him on TV towards the end of his career so I'd have to say he's the best RF I've seen play.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Congratulations to Ichiro. He is he best right fielder I have ever seen.

He should be a 1st ballot Hall-of -Famer IMO.

[ctownboy]

Seeing as this is a board dedicated to pre - war cards, when I watch Ichiro play (and root for him) I imagine what Major League baseball was like before 1920.

David

[the 'stache]

I'd love to see him get 3,000 hits. He could do it. He's 278 shy.

[Jay Wolt]

In this age of PED's and w/ all the other problems w/ baseball, its good to see some players who "get it" and who have appreciation of the game. He's a joy to watch.

[the 'stache]

The funny thing about Ichiro is he probably has as much natural power as the guys hitting 30-40 home runs a season now. His batting practice exploits are near legend. He hits one pitch after another into the seats without breaking a sweat.

[conor912]

Anyone know if they keep track of how many of those hits are legged out infield hits? I bet the number is staggering.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

I'd love to see him get 3,000 hits. He could do it. He's 278 shy.

+1, I hope he makes it, and I think he will.

[CaramelMan]

Julio Franco has over 4000 hits I believe

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by CaramelMan

Julio Franco has over 4000 hits I believe

Julio had 836 hits in the minors & 2586 in the bigs which is 3422
Not sure if he played in Japan or any other league

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Julio had 836 hits in the minors & 2586 in the bigs which is 3422
Not sure if he played in Japan or any other league

If you look up Jigger Statz on Wikipedia, it mentions that Franco had over 4,000 career hits, but I think this includes hits in Mexico, Japan, and even South Korea.

Also, Ichiro has a CANNON of an arm (still). I wonder how many doubles he's "stolen" from players over the years.

[conor912]

He had 1278 hits in Japan, which puts him at 5,278 lifetime. Combine whatever leagues you want (minors, majors, Japan, Mexico, etc) and no other player in the history of the game comes close to that.

[Kawika]

Originally Posted by conor912

He had 1278 hits in Japan, which puts him at 5,278 lifetime. Combine whatever leagues you want (minors, majors, Japan, Mexico, etc) and no other player in the history of the game comes close to that.

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[David W]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Julio had 836 hits in the minors & 2586 in the bigs which is 3422
Not sure if he played in Japan or any other league

Julio played 1995, 1998 in Japan.

He played 1999 in Mexico

He played 2000 in Korea.

I could not find stats for those years.

So I think it is safe to assume he does have 4000 professional hits or more.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=franco001jul

[David W]

Pete Rose finished with 4,256 in his major league career, while Ty Cobb ended up with 4,189. Taking international play into consideration, Julio Franco amassed 4,229 hits in his 26-year professional career, spread between Major League Baseball (2,586 hits), Minor League Baseball (618), the Mexican League (316), Japan’s Nippon Professional Baseball (286), the Dominican Winter League (267), and the Korean Baseball Organization (156). As far as I know, nobody else has reached 4,000 professional hits, no matter what league(s) they played in.

From this web site...

http://superichirocrazy.wordpress.co...roaching-4000/

[MVSNYC]

The addition of minor league hits to me is not applicable. Rose & Cobb's minor league hits aren't taken into account in that article like it is for Franco, so substract Franco's minor league totals.

Either way, what Ichiro has done, especially over the last 13 years in MLB is incredible. period. 1st ballet HOFer.

[baseballart]

Originally Posted by David W

Pete Rose finished with 4,256 in his major league career, while Ty Cobb ended up with 4,189. Taking international play into consideration, Julio Franco amassed 4,229 hits in his 26-year professional career, spread between Major League Baseball (2,586 hits), Minor League Baseball (618), the Mexican League (316), Japan’s Nippon Professional Baseball (286), the Dominican Winter League (267), and the Korean Baseball Organization (156). As far as I know, nobody else has reached 4,000 professional hits, no matter what league(s) they played in.

From this web site...

http://superichirocrazy.wordpress.co...roaching-4000/

Jigger Statz, 737 in the majors and 3356 in the PCL for a total of 4,093

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=statz-001arn

[esd10]

He does not have 4000 hits in major league baseball he has like 2700 hits and the rest where in japan so a third of his hits where in AAA basically. i'm not taking anything away from this land mark but he truly doesnt have 4000 hits in major league baseball.