T206 tannehill with f stamped on back

[ullmandds]

noone knows! if you collect unusual t206 nuances...keep it...otherwise sell it for a nice profit!

[RCMcKenzie]

I have not seen any evidence to support that these were Fitzgerald's cards. Everyone seems to refer back to JC's cryptic post in April 2008 where he stated that someone told him that Harold Shigley bought over 1000 baseball cards from the estate sale.
Dr. Cy's original response to JC's post was , "Is this an April Fools joke?" and the answer was simply, "No, it's true!" with no further evidence.

I would like to know if these were owned by Fitzgerald. Maybe someone can find the old hobby publication that JC said he thought might have written an article about the subject. Otherwise, as it stands, it all sounds like a mythical tale like Noah gathering up the animals 2 x 2.

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

I have not seen any evidence to support that these were Fitzgerald's cards. Everyone seems to refer back to JC's cryptic post in April 2008 where he stated that someone told him that Harold Shigley bought over 1000 baseball cards from the estate sale.
Dr. Cy's original response to JC's post was , "Is this an April Fools joke?" and the answer was simply, "No, it's true!" with no further evidence.

I would like to know if these were owned by Fitzgerald. Maybe someone can find the old hobby publication that JC said he thought might have written an article about the subject. Otherwise, as it stands, it all sounds like a mythical tale like (Insert fictitious, non-religious reference here).

I'm sure you didn't mean to offend anyone so I took the liberty of fixing this post for you.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

I'm sure you didn't mean to offend anyone so I took the liberty of fixing this post for you.

+1

[RCMcKenzie]

Chris and Jason, It was not my intention to offend. I should have used a different subject for my mythical analogy like the events surrounding Jupiter's daughter Fortuna or some other non-religious character.

My only goal was to understand how an Obak card was found in a collection that was supposedly stamped in the rural Northeast.

Peter is saying it is "accepted", but would SGC put "Fitzgerald collection" on the label if you requested it?

From the story, the thousands of F stamp cards were re-released into the collecting world in the 1960's. If that is the case I would expect to see many more of these circulating around. I would also expect the veteran dealers from the 1960's to know every detail of the Fitzgerald stamp.

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Chris and Jason, It was not my intention to offend. I should have used a different subject for my mythical analogy like the events surrounding Jupiter's daughter Fortuna or some other non-religious character.

My only goal was to understand how an Obak card was found in a collection that was supposedly stamped in the rural Northeast.

Peter is saying it is "accepted", but would SGC put "Fitzgerald collection" on the label if you requested it?

From the story, the thousands of F stamp cards were re-released into the collecting world in the 1960's. If that is the case I would expect to see many more of these circulating around. I would also expect the veteran dealers from the 1960's to know every detail of the Fitzgerald stamp.

No problem. I figured you weren't trying to be malicious. That's why I responded in the kindest way I could think of.

[arc2q]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

From the story, the thousands of F stamp cards were re-released into the collecting world in the 1960's. If that is the case I would expect to see many more of these circulating around. I would also expect the veteran dealers from the 1960's to know every detail of the Fitzgerald stamp.

It is quite possible the number of examples of the F-stamp is in the thousands. Most likely they reside in collections without the owner realizing the potential provenance and, thus, not avertising or discussing it. I have no idea if the stamp is really Fitzgerald's or not...but I want very much for it to be true. I have one I picked up cheap years ago with no idea what the stamp meant. It was not advertised as anything special and I thought it was just a beater with a mark on it. Now that their is an inkling of merit to the story of the stamp's provenance I hope the hobby can collectively do the research to prove it one way or the other. I don't care about the value so much as the unique story behind the card. I am sure there are many hundreds of others out there that have them but have no idea what it means until more research is conducted.

But I would disagree that we should expect the details to be known because these were released to the hobby in the 60s. Clearly knowledge about the T206 set was sorely and surprisingly spartan for many decades despite the prevalence of examples in circulation. Not having an explanation already does not conclusively disprove the theory that these came from F. Scott Fitzgerald -- it merely adds to the mystery.

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

I'm sure you didn't mean to offend anyone so I took the liberty of fixing this post for you.

+1

[brianp-beme]

RC brings up some valid points and is in my opinion justified in throwing doubt into the provenance of these cards. It would be very informative to trace back the origins of the F. Scott Fitzgerald connection to these cards. Someone with access to old hobby publications, get to it!

I am the fellow that has the Obak with the 'F' stamp, and the one that originally posted the somewhat troubling issues that it raises. If indeed these cards were FSF's, then to me the excecutor of his estate stamping the cards makes the most sense, with the Obak being a card he picked up later in life (I imagine Obaks were floating around the West Coast like cheap tabasco sauce in the late 30's and early 40's, and he snagged it because it reminded him of his childhood collecting).

Of course if I were a little more devious, I could have held back knowledge of this mystery FSF card because of the other, more traditional, T206 that I own with this stamp. Foolish mortal.

Brian

[tuckr1]

So whats the scoop on the Obak "F" stamp?? were Obak backs only regional, and therefore F. Scott couldn;t obtain one until older, so the theory is when F. Scott passed someone from his estate marked the back of his card collection with the F?? Are there anyother cards other then the T206 with the F stamp??

Originally Posted by brianp-beme

RC brings up some valid points and is in my opinion justified in throwing doubt into the provenance of these cards. It would be very informative to trace back the origins of the F. Scott Fitzgerald connection to these cards. Someone with access to old hobby publications, get to it!

I am the fellow that has the Obak with the 'F' stamp, and the one that originally posted the somewhat troubling issues that it raises. If indeed these cards were FSF's, then to me the excecutor of his estate stamping the cards makes the most sense, with the Obak being a card he picked up later in life (I imagine Obaks were floating around the West Coast like cheap tabasco sauce in the late 30's and early 40's, and he snagged it because it reminded him of his childhood collecting).

Of course if I were a little more devious, I could have held back knowledge of this mystery FSF card because of the other, more traditional, T206 that I own with this stamp. Foolish mortal.

Brian

[packs]

I wouldn't think it would be impossible for him to acquire one. If he collected as a kid, he could have returned and picked one up somewhere and marked it for his collection. Not too sure about distribution though. I suppose it could be possible that Obaks were sold on the East Coast as a company would want to spread itself over a wide market. But things were more regional then.

[tuckr1]

Thanks for the input, I am trying to find out as much about these cards as possible, new to collecting T206 cards

Thank Tucker

Originally Posted by ullmandds

noone knows! if you collect unusual t206 nuances...keep it...otherwise sell it for a nice profit!

[ullmandds]

Tucker...i think that it is "accepted" that these were owned by FSF is all youre gonna find...best case scenario...and that there is fairly strong demand. If debunked youre left with a t206 with a mark?!