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Old 08-15-2013, 12:50 PM
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RC, I think you miss the point it was not Frank who outed the overprints as fake to this forum. Yet across the street he claims he was the one, not Jim, Dan and I. That was what I found funny.
Surprised to see that he posts over there. I thought he fell off the face of the Earth.
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I've always had a lot of respect for Frank Ward''s views on cards. FWIW, he did state his opinion that the black overprints were fakes on this forum a little more than five years ago. Where that stands on the timeline of who outed what is unknown and of little or no concern to me.
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Goddamned recessive genes (color blind). For the life of me I can't tell a Brown Old Mill from a normal one. Nor should I be allowed to dress myself. But on the plus side, I often see green sunsets.
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Goddamned recessive genes (color blind). For the life of me I can't tell a Brown Old Mill from a normal one.
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I've always had a lot of respect for Frank Ward''s views on cards. FWIW, he did state his opinion that the black overprints were fakes on this forum a little more than five years ago. Where that stands on the timeline of who outed what is unknown and of little or no concern to me.
Todd, correct Frank sure did bring this issue up three days after the group of us brought it to the boards attention.

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is it at all possible that the scan was brightened up (as he tends to do on his listings) and appears to be Brown, but is really black?
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I don't know what was intended by your link, other than Frank's post therein claimed to have mentioned something about the backs in 2005,6 or 7. The post I saw where he opined them to be fake was in August 2008.

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The strange thing with this screwup missprint is the others Ive seen (single and double) are printed in red, not black.
The red one is a Sweet Caporal overprint mistakenly printed on a brown Old Mill back. (The double had the sheet flipped and then reprinted)

Makes no sense to have red and black ones. I smell a fake
Seems to me he called these fakes at that time. I didn't dig much further into this, because again, I don't care all that much.
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My point was for a guy who so easily was on top of these as fakes amazing he just waited around? Lots of folks raised eyebrows on these when they popped up hence why some of us dug into it. These cards were discussed and questioned in circles for years no surprise on that and Frank was part of those discussions. I also like Frank. This may be splitting hairs but that’s a big difference that you were suspect of them as others were to you were the one who brought the fakes to the community’s attention fully. Which is how Franks post reads…across the street.

Again why bother you don’t care too much about this stuff. Sorry to pull you away from more pressing things thanks for taking the time.

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Ah, so that was your point. I'm sure that's how everyone took it but me, sorry I didn't get it. Looked to me like someone who wanted to blow his own horn and take a swipe at a guy who is pretty widely respected but chooses not to post here anymore for some reason--but I guess I'm just being obtuse.
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If it’s a swipe to say hey wait a minute you may have questioned these cards as not legit in the past as did others, but you weren’t the sole person who proved it like your post reads. Then I guess it’s a swipe.

Also for the record I’m blowing a horn for the others involved as it wasn’t a sole effort.

Unless of course I’m on the CU forum then it was all me baby.

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