what a joke

[Cardboard Junkie]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

Brian and Michael Wentz in thei other selling ID --- few people know as much as they do about cards.

Rich

This is what DICK says. He is obviously a poor judge of character.

Here's what I think of the sellers.

[Rich Klein]

DP:

It takes one to really know one --

And as you yourself pointed out, you have already had one banishment from these boards, and you are well on your way to a second banishment

Rich

[Runscott]

I've bought from the seller often over the years, and she has always been very honest and easy to deal with.

I have had quite a few of these light ink Old Mills, and compared to the heavy ink obvious black ones, they do look brown. But the litmus test is to compare them to a Brown Hindu - it will be very obvious that they are not really brown.

[MW1]

I can see where some might think the description is misleading, though I was not the one who wrote it, nor do I believe the author had the intention to deceive. Still, to use the wording, "Let the buyer decide or be the judge" is inappropriate in the context it was employed and it has been changed.

Thank you, Kevin, for bringing this to my attention.

[timn1]

I always considered the Wentz family ("irishhosta" is Brian and Michael's mom, I think, who handles a lot of their ebay sales) honest, if not always the most fun dealers to interact with. But this one really does seem bogus to me, and their response to the inquiry is appalling. The back of this card does not look like anything unusual to me, and to represent it as such, which they are clearly doing, is sharp practice if not actually dishonest.

ADDENDUM: since Michael W. just posted an acknowledgment of the problem, I retract my comments above. I will leave them as a reference to the earlier circumstances, but they no longer represent my current view. Even so, $2500?

[wonkaticket]

The description of the lot is still so very misleading to say the least.

You can tell quite a bit of thought was put into the write ups. This was no mislabel mistake. Even more thought was put into the response almost to defend the mistake. To me the write up is clearly trying to accomplish one thing IMO get somebody to purchase on hope, lack of education and trust a $150 card for $2500.Not what I expect from folks at their level.

I appreciate Mike coming here to clear this up. However to me it looks like an attempt to smooth over the situation after being caught hands deep in the cookie jar. Perhaps I'm wrong who knows, but once again buyer beware folks.

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by MW1

I can see where some might think the description is misleading, though I was not the one who wrote it, nor do I believe the author had the intention to deceive. Still, to use the wording, "Let the buyer decide or be the judge" is inappropriate in the context it was employed and it has been changed.

Thank you, Kevin, for bringing this to my attention.

no problem.

quick question though, who did write the description and who wrote the response to my inquiry?

kevin

[ullmandds]

looks grey to me...def not brown...grey...gray?!

[MW1]

I would not describe the color as gray. It is an unusual shade between black and brown and there are no signs of fading. Perhaps the scan does not adequately depict this aspect of color but it is evident (in person) when compared to a black Old Mill.