Found this T206 missing magenta in my collection.

[thehoodedcoder]

yea. its also possible you don't get that much as well. its presumptious to think you would get more because you listed it an auction house although it is possibe.

i am interested in buying the card, however that doesn't mean the prices i listed in the post are favored towards me. they are based on research and recent purchase histories.

it doesn't really matter. he hasn't said the card is for sale yet

kevin

[Craig M]

That glue residue bothers me!

Craig

[Sean]

Yes, an Auction House sale would probably bring more money, but after the comission you might be better off with a private sale. Especially if you want the cash now rather than in 4-5 months.

[philliesfan]

Craig M - What is it about the glue that bothers you? This Rube Waddell has the same kind of glue residue but in a smaller area and not as thick or dark. Does this bother you as much? I have many others with the same kind of residue. Please know I am not asking in a sarcastic way, as I am just trying to broaden my knowledge of the T206 set and get others perspectives.
Thanks,
Robert

[RCMcKenzie]

My understanding is that there are scrapbook adhesives that can soak through to the front of T206 cards, sometimes altering the colors on the front over time. In the case of your card, it appears to me that your card simply missed a printing pass.

[philliesfan]

I have had many inquiries on the Carrigan card both in this thread and private messages.

I do not have the intention on selling the card. My only reason to start this thread was to make other T206 collectors aware of it.

However, if someone makes an offer I can't refuse.......................

Thanks
Robert

[mrvster]

Great card....looks like the real deal.....only one way to know for sure...

send to SGC....

Peace

Johnny

[philliesfan]

Would sending it to SGC be better than sending it to PSA?
Thanks,
Robert

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by philliesfan

Would sending it to SGC be better than sending it to PSA?
Thanks,
Robert

let me make you an offer you can't refuse and i will take care of that end of it

kevin

[Jantz]

Robert,

You will have a better chance at getting "Missing Red Ink" listed on the label/flip with PSA than any other grading company.

Thank You again for posting the Carrigan and providing the back information.

That information means more to me than putting that beauty in my collection.

I appreciate it!


Jantz

[iggyman]

A few observations, if I may and hopefully I am not in anyway cutting into Roberts European vacation plans.

1. Glue residue on a T206 card could conceivably cause some discoloration on the front, but the discoloration would not be consistent. In other words, we would still see some red on the front of the T206 Carrigan. A more viable theory in regards to the glue residue and something that raises a red flag in my book, is that the orange version Carrigan could have been mounted in a picture frame as opposed to a scrapbook. Thus, exposed to light.

2. What exactly does the strip of orange on the left border of the red Carrigan prove? Can someone please explain that to me. I'm a bit bedazzled with that one! My T206 Carrigan also has a small strip of orange (on the right side border as opposed to the left). The strip of orange only verifies what we already know and has already been stated by Erick in this thread.........."orange (yellow, then pink/buff) was the next to last colors used, with Magenta (red) as the last overlayed color." With exposure to light, the red gradually disappears and we are left with the color that was underneath. In this case, it's orange.

3. What is so wrong with the idea that the red on this hat and the "STON" on his uniform simply did gradually disappear by being exposed to sunlight. When I look at the card, I actually see a faint STON on the orange version Carrigan (a slightly faded pink/buff perhaps). A plausible reason for why we don't see orange behind the STON and hat, is because only pink/buff and not yellow was used. One would expect pink to fade along with the red.

Let the bullets fly.

Lovely Day...

[teetwoohsix]

Well, I'm definitely no printing expert, but it sure does look to me like it missed the whole red pass. I don't think the red would just evaporate away (or fade so consistently with no trace left at all). I would think even if it were faded, you would still see evidence of the red somewhere?

No bullets for you Iggy, just my opinion

Sincerely, Clayton

[obcmac]

I'm with Iggy on this one. Any glue on the back of a missing red is a bad sign. If you look at the percentage of missing red ink cards have glue on the back, you'll see a much higher percentage than t206's in general. So yes, glue often removes the red ink...it's obvious and not even a debate really.

That said, no one cares why the red ink isn't there...they'll pay tons for them anyway. Neat looking card, I'd love to have it...but didn't come out of the factory that way.

Mac

Originally Posted by iggyman

A few observations, if I may and hopefully I am not in anyway cutting into Roberts European vacation plans.

1. Glue residue on a T206 card could conceivably cause some discoloration on the front, but the discoloration would not be consistent. In other words, we would still see some red on the front of the T206 Carrigan. A more viable theory in regards to the glue residue and something that raises a red flag in my book, is that the orange version Carrigan could have been mounted in a picture frame as opposed to a scrapbook. Thus, exposed to light.

2. What exactly does the strip of orange on the left border of the red Carrigan prove? Can someone please explain that to me. I'm a bit bedazzled with that one! My T206 Carrigan also has a small strip of orange (on the right side border as opposed to the left). The strip of orange only verifies what we already know and has already been stated by Erick in this thread.........."orange (yellow, then pink/buff) was the next to last colors used, with Magenta (red) as the last overlayed color." With exposure to light, the red gradually disappears and we are left with the color that was underneath. In this case, it's orange.

3. What is so wrong with the idea that the red on this hat and the "STON" on his uniform simply did gradually disappear by being exposed to sunlight. When I look at the card, I actually see a faint STON on the orange version Carrigan (a slightly faded pink/buff perhaps). A plausible reason for why we don't see orange behind the STON and hat, is because only pink/buff and not yellow was used. One would expect pink to fade along with the red.

Let the bullets fly.

Lovely Day...

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by Sean

Yes, an Auction House sale would probably bring more money, but after the comission you might be better off with a private sale. Especially if you want the cash now rather than in 4-5 months.

Four or five months? Most auction houses pay their consignors within a month, and there are auctions being held seemingly every week. Saying the seller would have to wait 4-5 months for his money simply isn't accurate.

As for the commission, I think most auction houses would sell this card with no consignment fee. The fact there likely would be a handful of bidders driving up the price pretty much means a private sale would make no fiscal sense. At least for the seller.

All of this is probably a moot point, because the OP has said he doesn't plan on selling the card.

[RCMcKenzie]

That Cobb is certainly evidence that the red fades away to orange. The contrarian's view is often the correct one in these "find' debates. The registration on the OP's card looked good for a missing ink card to me from the scan, but it's just my assumption.