Elliott Museum

[mrvster]

Paul is gonna freak out

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by mrvster

Paul is gonna freak out

I knew about this collection, but the website only showed Jennings, Evers and Huggins. Wow.

[joshleland]

except for the possibility of the marquard those signed t206s are poor forgeries
im familiar with the collection of dan ginsburg and its "donation" to that fla museum
few if any t206s were signed prior to the collector era of the 1970s
josh evans

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by joshleland

except for the possibility of the marquard those signed t206s are poor forgeries
im familiar with the collection of dan ginsburg and its "donation" to that fla museum
few if any t206s were signed prior to the collector era of the 1970s
josh evans

While I am highly suspicious of all of these signatures, except for the Larry Doyle and the Rube Marquard, it simply is not accurate to suggest that no T206s were signed prior to the 1970s. While most were signed in the wake of the publication of The Glory of Their Times in 1966, we know based on objective facts that at least hobby legends Jeff Morey and John Wagner were quite active in their pursuit of signed tobacco cards as early as the mid-1950s.

For instance, we can see in the following letter from Fred Snodgrass to John Wagner that he was returning a signed "Cigarette Photo card" which was a T206 Snodgrass batting:



Nonetheless, I would agree that any T206 card purportedly signed by a player who died before 1940 -- like, e.g., Keeler, Jennings, and Huggins -- should be treated as presumptively fraudulent, without a tremendous amount of provenance, or at least multiple opinions from trusted experts.

[milkit1]

I hope someone can post pics of the commons

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by milkit1

I hope someone can post pics of the commons

Putting aside the strip card, an extensive signed T206 collection without a Marquard a Snodgrass is inherently suspect.

It's like the old adage - when people think they were someone else in a former life, why are they always famous or special people?

(In fairness to the Elliott Museum, Larry Doyle is a common and looks authentic to me.)

[Republicaninmass]

I've never seen a Miller J. Huggins, without the J and H connected, unless it has his full middle name, James.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by joshleland

except for the possibility of the marquard those signed t206s are poor forgeries
im familiar with the collection of dan ginsburg and its "donation" to that fla museum
few if any t206s were signed prior to the collector era of the 1970s
josh evans

This. None of the T206 HOF signed cards look close to real.

Tom C