wire photo type 1?

[prewarsports]

Thats not a wire photo. People use the term "wire" interchangably with "press" when in reality they are two totally different things. Paper captions are not on the back of wire photos unless they were put there after the fact. The need for a paper tagline or "slug" was obsolete with the advent of the wire.

Rhys

[JoeyF1981]

So can press photos be type 1's and if so by the info on the back does it indicate it is?

[D. Bergin]

Would be best to examine the front of the photo. I have seen paper tags on the back of "Sound", "Radio" and "Tele" photos which are in a similar category to "Wire" photos and would fall into the Type III designation.

Chances are yours is a Type 1 press photo, but the whole Type 1 designation can be a bit tricky sometimes.

[prewarsports]

Technically a "press" photo can be all four types, if you want to use that system which is very limited in its applicability but people like it so I will play along.

A "wire" photo (type 3) is a Press photo, but it can ony ever be a type 3. Type 1, and type 2 photos depend on what the photo ws developed from and a type 4 refers to the fact that it is made from a copy negative.

Sometimes the company that received a wire photo would put a paper tag on the back for cataloging purposes as was stated above, but that is a VERY rare occurance, they were not issued with paper tags.

Rhys

[JoeyF1981]

[drcy]

Looks to be type 1.

[prewarsports]

I want to post something really quick in response to note from another forum member that I got, and they were right so I wanted to clarify. I have knocked the "Type" system in the past but also support it in that I use its terms in my sales etc. (mostly because if I dont I get a hundred e mails a week asking me if a photo is a type 1) So I wanted to clarify a couple of things.

I know and respect Henry Yee very much and I feel that when the system was first implemented it was a dramatic step in the right direction for the hobby. It helped people to understand the hobby of photo collecting and in 99% ++ of the instances it is dead on. Now, here we are several years later and only through viewing literally half a million photographs and seeing many more in auctions etc, I realize there are problems with the system. That does not in ANY WAY diminish that the system is overall VERY good. Sometimes I say things that make it seem like I have a major chip on my shoulder against the system and if that is how it comes across I apologize, it is not my intention. The guys at PSA, do a good job at being consistant within their system and I have never seen ANYTHING that has made me question their motives, expertise, or ethics. I simply post a caveat sometimes that there are problems with the system, not the execution of the system. If I come across as being condescending toward it or those involved, especially Henry, I apologize and that is not in ANY WAY my intentions.

No need to go into the problems now, they are technical and I am sure they will come up at some time in the future and this is not the thread for that. I just wanted to put that out there because at least one person misunderstood me and I dont want others to do the same thing.

Carry on with the discussions.

Rhys yeakley

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

I want to post something really quick in response to note from another forum member that I got, and they were right so I wanted to clarify. I have knocked the "Type" system in the past but also support it in that I use its terms in my sales etc. (mostly because if I dont I get a hundred e mails a week asking me if a photo is a type 1) So I wanted to clarify a couple of things.

I know and respect Henry Yee very much and I feel that when the system was first implemented it was a dramatic step in the right direction for the hobby. It helped people to understand the hobby of photo collecting and in 99% ++ of the instances it is dead on. Now, here we are several years later and only through viewing literally half a million photographs and seeing many more in auctions etc, I realize there are problems with the system. That does not in ANY WAY diminish that the system is overall VERY good. Sometimes I say things that make it seem like I have a major chip on my shoulder against the system and if that is how it comes across I apologize, it is not my intention. The guys at PSA, do a good job at being consistant within their system and I have never seen ANYTHING that has made me question their motives, expertise, or ethics. I simply post a caveat sometimes that there are problems with the system, not the execution of the system. If I come across as being condescending toward it or those involved, especially Henry, I apologize and that is not in ANY WAY my intentions.

No need to go into the problems now, they are technical and I am sure they will come up at some time in the future and this is not the thread for that. I just wanted to put that out there because at least one person misunderstood me and I dont want others to do the same thing.

Carry on with the discussions.

Rhys yeakley

Just curious but why dont you like the type system?

[mybestbretts]

That is a beauty, Congratulations