OT: Congrats little Timmy!

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by Sean

Not to be a pitch count Nazi, but it's lucky for Tim that the All Star break is here. He's going to need the extra rest.

Agree, it's nice for him the AS break is coming. He had gone 140+ during his 1st Cy Young year.. and he's gone 120-130+ a handful of other times. I think the reason he hasn't done so as often in the past couple years is more related to a lack of effectiveness than to fatigue though. I still think he has a rubber arm that can throw forever.

Regardless, I am just so happy for this guy... even proud for him. He's had a tough couple years but just keeps going out there every 5th day and taking the ball. I feel as good for him as I did Zito in last year's post season. Both those guys showed nothing but class/character when struggling, which means a heck of a lot more than when things are going great.

Pads or whoever against, these guys are all big league hitters.

[freakhappy]

Ian,

You nailed it. Timmy has been struggling for a few years now and has shown nothing but class during that time. I was rooting for him immensely and was very happy for him...he deserves this. It doesn't matter what team he did it against because they are all big leaguers and no team is easy to no-hit...no one. Anyone that brings up such crap is just bitter.

Congrats to the freak!

[Rickyy]

A no hitter is a NO HITTER....nice to see the Freak pitching well again!

Ricky Y

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Rickyy

A no hitter is a NO HITTER....nice to see the Freak pitching well again!

Ricky Y

^^^ This x 100

We celebrate Johnny Vandermeer's back to back no hitters without any qualifying statements. There's no "ya, but he was playing against the Boston Braves and the Brooklyn Robins." A no hitter is a no hitter. A perfect game is a perfect game. They're all special, because no matter how well you are pitching, the guys behind you have to catch the balls that are hit. And no matter how good the opposing team's offense is (or is not), they're still Major League players, and there are a lot of guys in the minor leagues that would love to replace them.

I love Timmy. He's not the dominant pitcher he once was, but he goes out there, and pitches his butt off. He never complains. And just occasionally, we get great nights like tonight.

And though I missed this game, I am going to turn on my high def Sony flatscreen, load up MLB.tv on the Roku, and watch him throw a no hitter tonight after dinner.

Good on you, Tim!

[Sean]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Pads or whoever against, these guys are all big league hitters.

As Tim himself said a couple years ago, F@CK YEAH.

[novakjr]

Congrats Timmy

I only wish he would wait until he's NOT on my bench in fantasy to do this sh!t though

Just a question for everyone. As far as modern players go, has this guy done enough to get some HOF consideration(assuming he eventually gets 10 seasons)? Obviously not slam dunk. Does he fall into that "short spurt of greatness" Koufax type category? Or does he fall a bit short and wind up in the Doc Gooden category? Or are they all in that same category, with the type of player never really having a chance at the HOF again?

[Rich Klein]

HOF consideration just in terms of years pitched to start. I think he needs 6-7more really good years to get in that discussion

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

HOF consideration just in terms of years pitched to start. I think he needs 6-7more really good years to get in that discussion

Yeah, now that I look a little closer. Maybe Doc wasn't a good comparision. Didn't realize that he had 10 pretty nice years before the falloff.

And I keep forgetting that Sandy was only 30 when he retired. For some reason I keep thinking the great seasons were in the middle somewhere, rather than at the end, with him retiring at his peak..

[barrysloate]

Koufax won 53 games in his last two seasons. No comparison, as much as I am a big Lincecum fan.

[the 'stache]

I caught the last two innings of Tim's no no last night. His pitching performance was very encouraging as far as his future goes. His velocity is down a bit from when he won the back to back Cy Young Awards in 2008 and 2009, but his stuff is still nasty.

Tim's problem has been maddening periods of inconsistency. He's had several really good starts where he just hit a wall, and fell apart. Tonight he had batters swinging and missing all over the place. He can be a dominant pitcher again if he can continue mixing up hit pitches like he did last night. And I'm happy to say that. I really like Tim Lincecum, and I'd like to see him back on top of his game.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Tim's problem has been maddening periods of inconsistency. He's had several really good starts where he just hit a wall, and fell apart. Tonight he had batters swinging and missing all over the place. He can be a dominant pitcher again if he can continue mixing up hit pitches like he did last night. And I'm happy to say that. I really like Tim Lincecum, and I'd like to see him back on top of his game.

Lincecum seems to have one bad inning per outing, but that one inning is usually a really bad one. And the Giant's offense is rarely able to bail him out.

[novakjr]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Tim's problem has been maddening periods of inconsistency. He's had several really good starts where he just hit a wall, and fell apart. Tonight he had batters swinging and missing all over the place. He can be a dominant pitcher again if he can continue mixing up hit pitches like he did last night. And I'm happy to say that. I really like Tim Lincecum, and I'd like to see him back on top of his game.

From what I've seen, he seems to run into 1 of 3 problems each time. He seems to get frustrated and then falls apart..

1)10+ pitch AB's that result in a bloop single. Then he falls apart.
2)Facing the pitcher. Instead of just pitching, he starts nibbling and throwing junk, like he's trying to show him up. If it ends up in BB, he falls apart.
3)Defensive miscues, even ones that aren't technically errors. He falls apart.

As much as I like Scutaro, he's been the biggest culprit of the 3rd one. On at least 3 occasions this year, I've seen a Scutaro miscue start Timmy disaster innings.

Timmy's 2nd start of the year vs Colo, was the most notable. Scutaro throws away a ball to 2nd, trying to turn a DP, when Tulo was already safe at 2nd(scutaro does this more often than I think a MLB caliber middle infielder should), instead of just throwing to 1st to get Cuddyer. Scut's get charged with an error on the bad throw(because Tulo advanced to 3rd), but because the runner was already safe at 2nd(and you can't assume a DP), it's ruled that "both runners are safe on FC" and no "out" is applied toward ERA consideration.. Timmy got hit with 5 ER's that inning instead the 0 that it should've been(based on the scoring technicality). And that's not even taking into consideration, that had Scutaro made the appropriate play, Timmy might not have even fallen apart in the first place. Timmy follows that up that inning with 2 hits(one is a solo shot to Tulo), 1 BB and 6 K's over the next 4 innings..