Beware of fakes with MLB & other holograms!

[thecatspajamas]

I may be missing something, but wouldn't it be the easiest thing in the world to pull a hologram sticker (ANY hologram sticker) off of a legit jersey and apply it to a fake? I just don't see how a sticker on a piece of cloth provides any security at all, and seems to me like it invites fraud more than preventing it. My son sticks all kinds of stickers to his clothes, and I've never once had any problem pulling them right off. Is there something that I'm overlooking?

Randall, I don't mean that to be a commentary on your finding at all (keep up the good work). Sorry for slightly diverting your thread.

[Lordstan]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

I may be missing something, but wouldn't it be the easiest thing in the world to pull a hologram sticker (ANY hologram sticker) off of a legit jersey and apply it to a fake? I just don't see how a sticker on a piece of cloth provides any security at all, and seems to me like it invites fraud more than preventing it. My son sticks all kinds of stickers to his clothes, and I've never once had any problem pulling them right off. Is there something that I'm overlooking?

Lance,
I think you are right about this. Stickers on jerseys would seem to be much more easily tampered with.
Mark

[shelly]

Dimaggio ball is certed by the famous donald. The mantle jersey is probably real. Hard to judge when it bleed so bad.

[drcy]

A lot of security stickers and holograms are designed to be tamper evident. They're specially die cut so if you try and remove one, part of it is still stuck on the item. The hologram is unreusable if it's removed. I don't know how the MLB holograms are designed that way. I have heard of a hologram or two falling off of jerseys.

[Big Dave]

The Mantle autograph is horrible, and I have never seen the additional "Mickey Mantle 1951" on the tail of any of the UDA 536 jerseys.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

The Mantle autograph is horrible, and I have never seen the additional "Mickey Mantle 1951" on the tail of any of the UDA 536 jerseys.

I did not love signituer but the additon to the jersey gets it my

[mcgwirecom]

Seems the consensus is the seller is not reputable. I'm not 100% sure about the different holograms but I always thought they would crumble if you tried to remove it.

I have seen fake MLB holograms before. When you buy an MLB jersey they come with a hologram. I know people who have bought those knockoff jerseys from Asia and sure enough there was an MLB hologram on them, but I think they never bothered to change any numbers as they all had the same number.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

Dimaggio ball is certed by the famous donald. The mantle jersey is probably real. Hard to judge when it bleed so bad.

That DiMaggio signed ball is almost laughable. Geez.

[johnmh71]

If you choose to buy to stuff like that from someone with 179 feedbacks, you are getting exactly what you are asking for - A nice fake.

[yanksfan09]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Derek-Jeter-...item27d4c63658

The Jeter looks really shaky and slowly written.

[JimStinson]

Why would you want to buy Autographs from a seller in Taiwan when you can get better deals with a Nigerian dealer ?...
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[mr2686]

...and I'm pretty darn sure that the Bill Terry ball is bad.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by johnmh71

If you choose to buy to stuff like that from someone with 179 feedbacks, you are getting exactly what you are asking for - A nice fake.

I disagree, what does feedback have to do with it. If they only had 5 than yes, but 179 isn't bad. I only have 200 something, so based on your statement if I sell a high priced item it must be fake than?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

I disagree, what does feedback have to do with it. If they only had 5 than yes, but 179 isn't bad. I only have 200 something, so based on your statement if I sell a high priced item it must be fake than?

I agree with Brock.

You can't always judge a seller's items by their feedback. A feedback of 179 isn't that low.

The one thing to be wary of from a seller with low feedback, is if they are using borrowed photographs.

Judge them from their items.

[dapro]

Originally Posted by johnmh71

If you choose to buy to stuff like that from someone with 179 feedbacks, you are getting exactly what you are asking for - A nice fake.

I disagreed too. I only have 50+ feedback currently. If I decide to sell off some of my legit items, it will be consider fake? It is kind of unfair...

[drcy]

179 is fine for feedback, though you also have to consider how much of it is from selling. Of course, you'd prefer 10,000.

I call low when the feedback is 0 or 1 and he's selling a $10,000 item. What is being sold is relevant.

I should note that I've bought and sold from Taiwan, Hong Kong and China and have had no issues, so we shouldn't impugn an continent (to take a line from Seinfeld).

Though I admit I'm probably not about to buy a Mickey Mantle signed jersey from China on eBay. The last thing I bought from China on eBay was a scientific instrument for work.