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Old 07-06-2013, 10:10 AM
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A lot of boxing collectors, myself included were in the military. Cool I think, whimpy baseball people

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Old 07-06-2013, 11:52 AM
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Candidly, I think most Ali cards are overvalued based on availability. There are many that are legitimately scarce and deserve a high valuation but there are a lot of Ali cards from "mainstream" issues of the era that carry a substantial premium over equally available cards from the same issues of the other great heavies of the era. To me he is kind of like Mantle in that regard. As for fighting rep, I rate him right under Louis, up there with Dempsey and the other ATGs. I just don't feel any warm fuzzies over the man himself and therefore don't actively pursue his cards and memorabilia other than within the historical context of the cards I do collect. If I'm gonna collect a fighter I really have to like him, hence my pursuit of Jeffries, Louis and Leonard stuff.

And the modern/manufactured rarity cards, don't even get me started, ugh. Horrible stuff IMHO, been poison to modern baseball card collecting, and infects and kills every modern boxing issue starting w/the 1996 Ringside. I was really a booster of the 2010 Ringside issue when it came out a few years ago from the Sport King revivalists but geez, what a fiasco that has been. Two and out, and no wonder. No one bothers with the base sets--just as I suspected would be the case as I wrote on my blog after the 2010 National ["As for the base product, my feeling is that if collectors are going to basically throw away the base cards, the set is a failure"]--and the parallels are stupid things to 'invest' in over the long term, frankly. Not saying don't buy them if you like and enjoy them, but don't count on a black onyx set paying your kid's college tuition, either, especially with no new annual issues from the mfg to maintain collector interest. Lots of 1990s baseball 'investors' learned that the hard way. There was a real chance there to make a product that would fit well with contemporary boxing and have a lifespan--take over from the Brown's issues--but they blew it by weighting the issue to [yawn] the same old-timers as were in Kayo and AW in 1991. Boring then and boring now. About all I bother with from the two Ringside issues are the autographed cards of contemporary guys and I just sit and wait for them to come up at low prices, which they do. Picked up Calzaghe, Barrera, Glen Johnson, Barkley, and a few others at bottom feeder prices. And the artwork can be so fugly and cartoonish on some of those that I may have a friend who does custom cards use the autographs as cuts to make nicer cards out of them.

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Old 07-06-2013, 07:32 PM
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I know there are a handful of people out there trying to get the Onyx cards. And the two I picked up are of modern icons, love them or hate them. Got them for less than $40 each and am getting retarded high offers. Not counting on them to pay for anyone's college but hell I did well on these. Mantle, Ali and Tyson will always go for high premiums. Bottom line.
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I feel that the Red Sun issue is one of the coolest and one of the most undervalued versus other things on the market in the 20th century. For 19th century, I most like Lorriards Mechanics.

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Old 09-08-2013, 12:30 AM
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3 years later...

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Yeah, there's definitely a collecting base for the SPs, which I was wrong on [though every time I try to sell one I get diddly-squat for it]. Interesting how the cards you flagged are Mayweather [the #1 PFP today] and Tyson [very current news for his theatrical show]; what are prices like on the has-beens? There's also an active market for the autographed cards though the prices on them can be all over the map. The base cards sell for less than the average cost of purchasing them NIB, and a lot of the memorabilia cards still sell for peanuts.

If only Ringside had done a nice contemporary boxers issue...
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The no body's fetch 75 - 125. I think this is a fad. These cards wont be worth the $40 I paid in a few years. Mayweather has a fight next weekend. Anyways I have a nice J.P Clow n175. Not sure if I wanna trade it. Got anything?
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