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Old 07-03-2013, 08:04 PM
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dave,
many thanks for the update. Congratulations.
I'll be eager to purchase the hard copy from lulu when it's available.
all the best,
barry
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Old 07-04-2013, 02:53 PM
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Default One quick note

Dave:

As I wsa reading your review of the 1955 Topps set you mention "Beckett alleges" there are foud DP's in thei high number sheet.

Again, just as we agree to disagree on the 1967 Hi #'s --- those four numbers are far more available than other 1955 hi #'s.

I'd love to see proof either way bit as a dealer I will tell you that I always have seen and owned far more of those four 55 hi #'s than any other cards from that series. In fact, I'd wager if you found a few dealers on this board they would correlate both the 55 and 67 discussions we have had

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Old 07-04-2013, 03:06 PM
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Dave:

As I was reading your review of the 1955 Topps set you mention "Beckett alleges" there are found DP's in their high number sheet."

Again, just as we agree to disagree on the 1967 Hi #'s --- those four numbers are far more available than other 1955 hi #'s.

I'd love to see proof either way bit as a dealer I will tell you that I always have seen and owned far more of those four 55 hi #'s than any other cards from that series. In fact, I'd wager if you found a few dealers on this board they would correlate both the 55 and 67 discussions we have had

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Hi Rich:

Well I am certainly open to looking into it further: I am more confident on the 67's but can say in '53 the missing cards were actually pulled after production and I think it possible that happened in '55 as well. On the other hand there are some Quadruple prints in the low series in '55.

I think I'll put a feeler out on the 55's either here or on one of the blogs and get some more opinions. One thing I like about all this digital publishing is that updates are a breeze.
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Default The Modern Hobby Guide To Topps Chewing Gum: 1938-1956 (Now Updated, See Post #14)

Great job! Thanks!
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Old 07-04-2013, 06:18 PM
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Default I have a goof amount of 55's

And would love to see your theories on the quadruple prints (you can PM me or email me) and I'd like to do my research to match yours.

We'll compare notes and see what we come up with.

This is one of the fun type of side projects I would do when I was at Beckett.

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Rich:

I actually have a sheet scan from 55, although it's a little murky. Let me get my paperwork together and I'll send you something by e-mail. I hope to get it done before vacation and the Natty.
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I will move the 1955 Topps Baseball subthread over to the Postwar side but for any of you following this, here is the paragraph from my book Rich was referring to:

"The 1955 high numbers have four cards that were withdrawn from distribution and have never been identified except by number: 175, 186, 203 and 209. These were probably newly signed players that also had a Bowman contract that took precedence and the timing of this indicates Topps and Bowman were still engaged in legal wrangling well into 1955. It is alleged by Beckett that nos. 170, 172, 184 and 188 were double printed to fill in for the four missing numbers. If true, this means the players were identified early enough to have been changed out no later than the final proofing process and were not pulled after printing and cutting as had been the case in 1953."
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