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Old 06-29-2013, 10:02 AM
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The pop reports are interesting.

PSA only has one listing - 1911-16 Peoples. They don't have a separate listing for the different types, or for Kotton or Mino or VE. They show grades for 68 different cards with 145 total cards graded.

PSA only has one set in their registry. That set has 9 cards.

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SGC has a strange way of grading these:

Mino is listed as 1914, with 3 different players and a total of 4 cards graded.

VE is listed as 1914, with 1 card graded.

Peoples Tobacco is shown as 1914 with 7 players and 8 total cards. So, what are they? Kotton? Who knows.

Kotton is listed as 1911-16 with 63 different cards graded and 441 total cards.

SGC has 2 Kotton sets in their registry. One is 81% complete and the other is 3% complete. I wonder how many of each back type is in the set that is 81% complete.
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I haven't crossed checked the players from each grading company to see if they combine to show grades for all 74 cards plus the 30 variations that are listed in SCD.

SCD shows the same checklist of 74 cards plus 30 variations for Kotton, Mino, and VE. Has anyone ever seen all of these cards? It is hard for me to believe that all of these cards exist for Mino and VE. They probably don't exist for the thin paper Kotton cards either. Does anyone know if the full sets exist for all 3 types of Kotton backs?

Are there certain Kotton cards that only contain one type of back or do all of the cards come with each of the 3 backs.

Lots of questions about this set. I guess that is why I enjoy working on this set.

Rick
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:11 AM
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LOOKING for these T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (75 cards)

AMES (hands over head)....CAMNITZ (hands over head)....CRAWFORD (bat)....DOYLE (portrait)
McGRAW (portrait-cap)....McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off)....WILTSE (portrait-cap)
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:18 AM
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Here are mine...the Cobb should look familiar Andy ;-)

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Old 06-29-2013, 12:25 PM
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Mac, I definitely want to trade for that Cobb back. Here's a Mino Marquard.

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I love the uniqueness of the louisianian issues with their melange of backs and tough team/league variations!
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Here's a low grade, (scrap?), Virginia Extra. These are hard to find.
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Rough but it qualifies...
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The pop reports are interesting.

PSA only has one listing - 1911-16 Peoples. They don't have a separate listing for the different types, or for Kotton or Mino or VE. They show grades for 68 different cards with 145 total cards graded.

PSA only has one set in their registry. That set has 9 cards.

__________________________________________________ _____________

SGC has a strange way of grading these:

Mino is listed as 1914, with 3 different players and a total of 4 cards graded.

VE is listed as 1914, with 1 card graded.

Peoples Tobacco is shown as 1914 with 7 players and 8 total cards. So, what are they? Kotton? Who knows.

Kotton is listed as 1911-16 with 63 different cards graded and 441 total cards.

SGC has 2 Kotton sets in their registry. One is 81% complete and the other is 3% complete. I wonder how many of each back type is in the set that is 81% complete.
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I haven't crossed checked the players from each grading company to see if they combine to show grades for all 74 cards plus the 30 variations that are listed in SCD.

SCD shows the same checklist of 74 cards plus 30 variations for Kotton, Mino, and VE. Has anyone ever seen all of these cards? It is hard for me to believe that all of these cards exist for Mino and VE. They probably don't exist for the thin paper Kotton cards either. Does anyone know if the full sets exist for all 3 types of Kotton backs?

Are there certain Kotton cards that only contain one type of back or do all of the cards come with each of the 3 backs.

Lots of questions about this set. I guess that is why I enjoy working on this set.

Rick
These might not bode well for the SGC information as all four are in numerical SGC holders....
And for them to put "thin stock" on the flip is a bit unnecessary as there are no others, other than thin stock. They really should have saved that caveat for the T216-3 Kottons....IMO the VE's are much more scarce than the other T216s.


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Old 07-03-2013, 06:54 PM
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Wow, 4 VE's? That is amazing!

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Here's my sample. It seems extremely tough to find these in VG-EX or better condition. Anybody have one in EX+ to show off?
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Bruce?
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Sorry to arrive so late on this...just got my t216s today. Really like this Wiltse though - bright colors, blank backed, oversized borders and definitely handcut.... kind of a neat card!

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