need help big time cobb green back experts

[Eric72]

Additionally...is it just me, or does the card on the right seem to have lettering that appears more black than brown? From what I understand, this would be an indicator that it's not the real deal; however, could be wrong here.

Given my limited experience with T206, I am just asking...and not providing an unqualified expert opinion.

Best,

Eric

[sflayank]

the 2nd cobb was purchased by someone i know and he lost his investment
there are 100s of ruths gehrigs cobbs 54 aarons 56 mantle 68 ryans 86 jordans out there in fake holders fake slips...i guess you just have to double triple and quadruple check

[EvilKing00]

wow psa as well as the rest better do something to make this harder to fake

[t206hound]

wow. I'm guessing a real back on a fake front in a counterfeit slab?

[Eric72]

The current TPGs need to step in here and protect their market share. If not, someone else will steal it from them.

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by sflayank

the 2nd cobb was purchased by someone i know and he lost his investment
there are 100s of ruths gehrigs cobbs 54 aarons 56 mantle 68 ryans 86 jordans out there in fake holders fake slips...i guess you just have to double triple and quadruple check

Has anyone seen any fake SGC slabs out there yet? Just curious if these fakes are confined to PSA slabs at this time.

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

Has anyone seen any fake SGC slabs out there yet? Just curious if these fakes are confined to PSA slabs at this time.

Accidental phone post. Please ignore.

[DeanH3]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

Accidental phone post. Please ignore.

Huh?? My question was in all seriousness. I would like to know if these scam artists have been able to fake an SGC slab.

Edited: I think I misunderstood your post. My apologies.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by DeanH3

Huh?? My question was in all seriousness. I would like to know if these scam artists have been able to fake an SGC slab. I think your post is the one that can be ignored.

SGC holders can probably be faked but the scammer(s) seem to be going after PSA the most. I think there is a personal vendetta going on against PSA....

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

SGC holders can probably be faked but the scammer(s) seem to be going after PSA the most. I think there is a personal vendetta going on against PSA....

Haha. This made my day.

[Tcards-Please]

Originally Posted by sflayank

the 2nd cobb was purchased by someone i know and he lost his investment

How did he lose his investment? Is it because the market has softened or was he told it was a fake?

r/
Frank

[Prof_Plum]

Using an online barcode reader, I got the first Cobb barcode to come back as a match to the text number. With the second Cobb's barcode I couldn't get any of the online sites I tried to read it or at least decipher into numbers.

Note: some of the sites couldn't read the first Cobb code either.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by sflayank

the 2nd cobb was purchased by someone i know and he lost his investment
there are 100s of ruths gehrigs cobbs 54 aarons 56 mantle 68 ryans 86 jordans out there in fake holders fake slips...i guess you just have to double triple and quadruple check

Know your dealer-sometimes hard online but it's a must when dealing with anything of value, cards or not.

[sflayank]

everyone on here seems to agree the 2nd card holder is fake and the flip is fake but
is it possible the cobb card itself is real and was removed from an authentic holder(trimmed or recolored or whatever) and placed in a fake psa holder and flip to upgrade the card

[christopher.herman]

In my opinion and without seeing the card in person:
1. The PSA holder/slab is real. (The slabs are way too easy to open and reseal. PSA needs to make them totally self destruct upon cracking, similar to Beckett.)
2. The flip is fake. (The font is significantly off.)
3. The card is a fake front. (Probably easily identified using a loupe in person. And the text looks black and too faint, similar to other reprints that I've seen.)
4. The back looks real and skinned to apply the fake
front. (Also the back does not line up to the front in terms of cut. Another red flag.)

Know your seller. Check the certs. Examine high dollar purchases in person, if possible. Pay with regular PayPal or a credit card so that you have some recourse in the event that fraud is evident.

Christopher.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by christopher.herman

In my opinion and without seeing the card in person:
1. The PSA holder/slab is real. (The slabs are way too easy to open and reseal. PSA needs to make them totally self destruct upon cracking, similar to Beckett.)

No. Tamper-evident is ok with me.

[Fred]

Why do people assume the flip is fake? It's really hard to compare the two flip scans because the scanners could be different, the resolution of the scans may not be the same and there could be other unaccounted for differences.

Seriosuly, if the person that owns the "fake" card really wants to do the hobby a favor then turn it over to PSA and let them investigate it. Better yet, why not allow the authorities investigate it. Sadly, many people may view this as a waste of public funds.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sflayank

everyone on here seems to agree the 2nd card holder is fake and the flip is fake but
is it possible the cobb card itself is real and was removed from an authentic holder(trimmed or recolored or whatever) and placed in a fake psa holder and flip to upgrade the card

That's a strange question. The obvious response would be: "Ask your friend - he has the card", but you said that he "lost his investment." If that's the case, then the card must be a fake, unless he thought it was fake and threw it away, but it was actually real. But I'm guessing that's not the case, or you wouldn't be asking us if it is real or not;i.e-someone is still holding the 'card', or this entire story is bogus.

Rather than present a mystery for us to solve without all the information, why not just tell us what you know from the very beginning?