How about this Joe Louis?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by travrosty

dave,

Steve Grad the mastermind behind joe louis authentications. gotta love him. I don't know of a guy more responsible for ______ up Joe louis autograph, maybe spence but Grad out front of the pack.

I look at a piece like that and say to myself, "way to screw up a nice vintage photograph".

[toybulldog]

Two questions on this one: (1) Is it good? (2) Does anyone have an image of the card itself unfolded? It certainly appears to be a two-sided card and I'd like to see what is on the other [brown] side of the card.

Wow, they seem to have guessed right here. Looks consistent to Louis' signing pattern from around 1945 or 1946.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by toybulldog

Wow, they seem to have guessed right here. Looks consistent to Louis' signing pattern from around 1945 or 1946.

Meet PSA's team:

[travrosty]

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[Runscott]

What expertise can JSA or PSA/DNA possibly be providing, that we can't get for ourselves? Do they have a huge exemplar file? (rhetorical question)

Seriously, I can google any autograph, decide for myself which ones are reasonable exemplars, then decide if the autograph is real or not. I don't care who the autograph is by - I feel certain that my success rate is higher than either of the major TPA's. The big difference is that I spend whatever time is necessary to do my research, and no one is paying me.