E90-1 American Caramel exclusive artwork

[ScottFandango]

you forgot the rarest (population report wise) card in the entire e90-1 set...

no, not the mitchell or jackson...

George Stone (Left hand Visible) has exclusive art work and it is THE RAREST CARD in the E90-1 set with a scant 25 Total SGC and PSA copies graded!

even hard core Caramel Collectors may be hard pressed to recognize this card!
very rarely seen!


edited :my bad...Nadja Caramel may have this...sorry....still the rarest of the E90-1

[ullmandds]

it looks like there was a george stone on ebay in may that didn't sell for $40?!?!

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

it looks like there was a george stone on ebay in may that didn't sell for $40?!?!

this set had traditionally been classified by old school metrics...

the new metrics (aged population reports) shows this is the hardest card to find/get!

the grandfathers of collecting did not have Pop reports to help determine rarity levels...

[edhans]

Pop reports notwithstanding, there's no way that Stone-left hand is the toughest card in the set. It's a moderately difficult card, but nowhere near the toughest.

[caramelcard]

Nice thread. Interesting that many of the original artwork players are tough to find. Not all, but many stand out as the toughest (and nicest imo) in the set.

D380: What a strange mix of players. I'd think there may be a couple additional D380s not found that share this original artwork. Need to match up the cleveland, st louis, and detroit players with your list and see if any are possible.

Rob

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by edhans

Pop reports notwithstanding, there's no way that Stone-left hand is the toughest card in the set. It's a moderately difficult card, but nowhere near the toughest.

Ed thanks for chiming in as i believe you have great knowledge of this set!
However, i am being totally objective...many times subjectivity comes into play after collectors collect and complete a set...they have personal experiences that may sculpt their beliefs on the difficulty of a specific card...this IS however Subjective...Population reports are more accurate than all the collective beliefs of collectors...Even master collectors like yourself can propogate long held beliefs of card rarities that may not be reflective in black and white:POP REPORTS

[CW]

Population reports are more accurate than all the collective beliefs of collectors

How can we be so sure? Pop reports, for some cards, can be grossly inaccurate. Regrades, crossovers, and the fact that many examples of a particular issue may not have even been sent in for grading -- these are all factors that make pop report studying an inexact science, to say the least.

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by CW

How can we be so sure? Pop reports, for some cards, can be grossly inaccurate. Regrades, crossovers, and the fact that many examples of a particular issue may not have even been sent in for grading -- these are all factors that make pop report studying an inexact science, to say the least.

GROSSLY INNACURRATE? totally disagree...

if anything, a pop report may be INFLATED by 1 or 2 due to crossover/crack resubmit...so if anything, you can correctly assume that there are actually LESS graded versions than the pop reports show...

so if a card has very few graded examples relative to the rest of the set, this shows an accurate depiction (if not overstated) of the rarity level of the card...far from GROSSLY INNACURRATE...