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[Runscott]

Originally Posted by johnmh71

It's like GAI. There are alot of autos out there that aren't Williams, Mantle, or DiMaggio which are real with their cert on them. You just need to be able to pick between the good and the bad.

No, it's not like GAI. GAI had it's problems, but it wasn't an operation that was set up to knowingly move fake autographs.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Runscott

No, it's not like GAI. GAI had it's problems, but it wasn't an operation that was set up to knowingly move fake autographs.

Sorry, at the end that is exactly what they did.

[Big Dave]

As he stated, it wasn't set up for that, but in the end, someone's actions tainted a lot of good signatures merely because they have a GAI cert, not because they are not authentic.

[johnmh71]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

As he stated, it wasn't set up for that, but in the end, someone's actions tainted a lot of good signatures merely because they have a GAI cert, not because they are not authentic.

I couldn't have put it any better myself.

[Runscott]

If you rely on TPA's, then you admittedly have a better chance of buying something real if you go with JSA or PSA/DNA, as opposed to GAI. Is someone showed me a GAI-authenticated item that I was interested in, I would look, since there is a chance it could be real. If they showed me a CC item, I would laugh. If they were serious, I would lose respect for them.

I'm not a TPA guy, so my viewpoint is probably different from most peoples' in this forum.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

As he stated, it wasn't set up for that, but in the end, someone's actions tainted a lot of good signatures merely because they have a GAI cert, not because they are not authentic.

The good signatures are still good. If you spot a GAI autograph that you are certain is good, you should be able to get it cheaper because the GAI cert lessens the value.

You are unlikely to ever see a CC autograph that you will feel is good - that's the difference.

[CW]

I am wondering if the subject line of this topic could be slightly edited to say something like, "Very questionable Lloyd Waner" so the buyer would have a better chance of seeing this thread? Just a suggestion...

[travrosty]

if you make the perez postcard into one of those stupid 1 of 1 limited editions, they go for 6000 apiece.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...0-%221-of-1%22

[travrosty]

Coaches corner used to go to spence according to this article by ted taylor.

http://articles.philly.com/1998-04-3...ctors-collages

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by travrosty

if you make the perez postcard into one of those stupid 1 of 1 limited editions, they go for 6000 apiece.

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...0-%221-of-1%22

I was relieved to see this was the entire item slabbed as a 1-of-1. When I first read your post my heart shipped a beat thinking someone may have actually made a cut out of a Waner PS.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Runscott

No, it's not like GAI. GAI had it's problems, but it wasn't an operation that was set up to knowingly move fake autographs.

was cc set up to move fakes from the BEGINNING? if so why use spence. that is my observation.

Either it was a long time ago that they wanted to use spence and they didnt peddle fakes back then, or they did, but then why use spence? anyone?