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Old 06-23-2013, 08:46 PM
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Agree, San Diego is a no brainer!
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:10 PM
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covers this discussion

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...-the-national/

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Old 06-24-2013, 11:44 AM
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Great article. Thank you.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:10 PM
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Default Re: National Locations Annnounced Through 2019

I'm going to chime in with my two cents.

I can recall attending the very First National at the Marroitt Hotel in
Los Angeles. It was a novel concept. The National not only allowed
dealers from across the country to meet annually, but the show
changed location each year to allow people from all areas of the
country to participate. Remember, there was no E-Bay, Internet or
the like, so to have the big show come to a city near you was a real
treat.

After the 2006 National left Anaheim, something happened. I do
recall reading how East Coast dealers complained about traveling
out West and that pretty much put an end to the West cost being
considered for future venues.

With the exception of Atlantic City in 2016 and Baltimore in 2012
and 2010 the National has settled for Chicago and Cleveland. I've
put together a list of all the Nationals from 1980-2019. See below:

Perhaps it it time for the powers to be to take a step back and refocus.
Who is their audience? What is their mission and how can they get
back to the concept of being a true "National" show for all areas of
the country to participate.

ErikV


National Locations:

2019 Chicago
2018 Cleveland
2017 Chicago
2016 Atlantic City
2015 Chicago
2014 Cleveland
2013 Chicago
2012 Baltimore
2011 Chicago
2010 Baltimore
2009 Cleveland
2008 Chicago
2007 Cleveland
2006 Anaheim
2005 Chicago
2004 Cleveland
2003 Atlantic City
2002 Chicago
2001 Cleveland
2000 Anaheim
1999 Atlanta
1998 Chicago
1997 Cleveland
1996 Anaheim
1995 St Louis
1994 Houston
1993 Chicago
1992 Atlanta
1991 Anaheim
1990 Arlington
1989 Chicago
1988 Atlantic City
1987 San Francisco
1986 Arlington
1985 Anaheim
1984 Parsippany N.J.
1983 Chicago
1982 St Louis
1981 Detroit
1980 Los Angeles


12 Chicago
7 Cleveland
6 Anaheim/L.A.
3 Atlantic City
2 Arlington
2 Atlanta
2 Baltimore
2 St Louis
1 Detroit
1 Houston
1 Parsippany N.J.
1 San Francisco
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:46 PM
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Given this schedule, my preference would be that they just park it in Chicago. Getting to Atlantic City from the West Coast will be an all-day adventure. And, when you finish, you're in Atlantic City...

Mike Berkus has a tough job and I appreciate that he's willing to keep putting in the work year after year to make this show happen. I'll be at my 11th straight one this year.

Bill
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Old 06-24-2013, 02:06 PM
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Given this schedule, my preference would be that they just park it in Chicago. Getting to Atlantic City from the West Coast will be an all-day adventure. And, when you finish, you're in Atlantic City...

Mike Berkus has a tough job and I appreciate that he's willing to keep putting in the work year after year to make this show happen. I'll be at my 11th straight one this year.

Bill
I agree, Bill. Just park it in one place. I'd rather that one place be Baltimore since I really like the central city location of that facility with the restaurants and everything right there as well as the airport close. But, Chicago suburbs is OK. AC will be an adventure for sure.
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Old 06-24-2013, 03:26 PM
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Keep it in Chicago or move it to a different place every year. Going to Cleveland every other year is supposed to "keep it from getting stale?" Please.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:32 PM
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just call it the chicago national, is that a crime?

otherwise move it around,

i think a number of east coast dealers like the excuses of floor size, guarantees, unions, etc. to give cover to the fact that they don't want to bring their stuff any farther west than chicago.

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Given this schedule, my preference would be that they just park it in Chicago.
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I agree, just leave it in Chicago every year. It is one non-stop flight from almost anywhere in the country.


From the West coast, AC or Baltimore are a hassle to get to. I am like Leon, I am there for the show and don't really care what is nearby. That said, the venue and set-up in Cleveland is a real armpit. Shuttles from hotels are a pain.
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I agree, just leave it in Chicago every year. It is one non-stop flight from almost anywhere in the country.


From the West coast, AC or Baltimore are a hassle to get to. I am like Leon, I am there for the show and don't really care what is nearby. That said, the venue and set-up in Cleveland is a real armpit. Shuttles from hotels are a pain.
JimB
I prefer Baltimore solely because the location is in "Baltimore" and near decent hotels/trains/airport unlike Chicago which really isn't "Chicago." However, it is adjacent to the airport and the truth is, you're going for the show not the town. AC makes zero sense. I'm in NYC and I can't imagine going to AC for a National -- just too big a pain in the ass.
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Old 06-24-2013, 01:14 PM
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I think something that is lost in this discussion is that the Chicago and Cleveland shows are very well attended and dealers report excellent sales. Obviously, I'm biased because I live in the Chicago area and love having the National here. It's a tremendous show. If you haven't been to one, you MUST go. The amount of cards and memorabilia on display, along with rarity, variety and beauty, is staggering.

Also, if you're coming to my fair city next month, here's a tip on some off-the-beaten-path places to see:

Check out Graceland Cemetery at 4001 N. Clark, just a short walk from Wrigley Field, burial place of fighter Jack Johnson and other historical figures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graceland_Cemetery).

Also check out Oak Woods Cemetery on the South Side (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Woods_Cemetery), burial place of Cap Anson and Kenesaw Mountain Landis, to name a few.
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Old 06-24-2013, 06:35 AM
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Chi, Cleve, Chi, Cleve and on and on and on. The board picked the best possible sights. BS. The board should get their heads out of their a$$es and turn the show back into a REAL national, or give it up to someone who will. This same old same old is not getting any new collectors at all into the market. You dealers better get your brains working as the current shows will dry up for buyers.

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