Unbelievable Marciano mess with certification-breaking story.

[D. Bergin]

I wouldn't put all the blame on PSA and JSA regarding these letters. They also fooled plenty of well respected boxing guys for years.

The signatures are very convincing but the content, and known facts about the general behavior of Marciano give them away.

I know a couple of guys who sussed these out years ago.

Funny how they say, one of Marciano's brothers say "they may not be legit". His bro's are the last people I'd want authenticating his autograph.

[cubsfan-budman]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I wouldn't put all the blame on PSA and JSA regarding these letters. They also fooled plenty of well respected boxing guys for years.

The signatures are very convincing but the content, and known facts about the general behavior of Marciano give them away.

I know a couple of guys who sussed these out years ago.

Funny how they say, one of Marciano's brothers say "they may not be legit". His bro's are the last people I'd want authenticating his autograph.

That's all fine, but once they know they're wrong, why won't they admit they're wrong? at minimum, update your exemplars!

[shelly]

I never see them say I am sorry or we got it wrong. This is starting to be a habit with them

[jerseygary]

Being a TPA means never having to say "I'm sorry".

And did you catch the stupid oval JSA sticker affixed to the back that shows through one of the fake letterheads? What the hell is wrong with people!

[D. Bergin]

The auction house mentioned has sold at least 5 of these over the years, according to their own search engine..........without any help from the TPA's.

[slidekellyslide]

Rob Lifson is mentioned 4 times in that article and it has nothing to do with him.

[Mr. Zipper]

So the most recent letter gets pulled, which most reasonable people would say is a good thing if it is not authentic...

And how does HOS spin it?

"JSA is battling its own contradictory opinions..."

"JSA’s determination that the document was not actually signed by the boxing champ who hailed from Brockton, Massachusetts, is at odds with Spence’s own prior authentications..."

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

And some wonder why any TPA is hesitant to publicly admit mistakes? If they do, the smear sites bash them over the head with it one way or another.

By the way Travis.... any update on the Jim Corbett ISP someone posted at the beginning of May? Is it real or not? You said at the time, "we are gonna look at it for awhile to give a qualified, informed opinion." With that big scan and that much handwriting, one would think it would be an easy call for an expert such as yourself.

Here is the link for your reference: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hlight=corbett

[sago]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Rob Lifson is mentioned 4 times in that article and it has nothing to do with him.

I would have guessed more.

[mighty bombjack]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

The auction house mentioned has sold at least 5 of these over the years, according to their own search engine..........without any help from the TPA's.

Who, Leland's?

[travrosty]

I wish these were space autographs that we were talking about over and over and over again, mr. zarelli would be singing such a different tune!