T206 Ty Cobb Back at auction

[z28jd]

I'm saying, since there is no such thing as a T206, with a Ty Cobb back, that it gets no bids! I refuse to accept this as part of the T206 set

[Sean]

Originally Posted by z28jd

I'm saying, since there is no such thing as a T206, with a Ty Cobb back, that it gets no bids! I refuse to accept this as part of the T206 set

I agree that it's not a T206, but it will get at least one bid...... Because I already bid on it.

[auggiedoggy]

Originally Posted by Sean

I agree that it's not a T206, but it will get at least one bid...... Because I already bid on it.

Well it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck. Are you sure its not a duck?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by auggiedoggy

Well it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck. Are you sure its not a duck?

I'm not sure, but in my opinion the glossy feel to the card indicates that it was produced separately from the T206 set. Obviously the same Cobb/Red plate was used. But it was also used for Coupon cigarettes, and those are not T206s. It was also used for Red Cross and those aren't either.
There seems to be some dispute as to when the Cobb backs were produced. If they were produced in 1910, as seems to be indicated by an ad in a Georgia newspaper, then they could be part of the set. If they were distributed in Cobb tobacco tins that would likely date them to 1912, which would be too late to be T206s.
As far as I can tell, the best argument in favor of including them in the set is that Jefferson Burdick put them there back in the '30s.
There is no definitive proof either way, so reach your own conclusion.
By the way, there are members on this board who know 10x as much as me on this subject, so maybe they can weigh in on the matter, and correct me if I got this wrong.

[pawpawdiv9]

http://www.t206museum.com/page/periodical_91.html
T206 Ty Cobb with Ty Cobb back found in Ty Cobb Tobacco tin

Lew Lipset - Old Judge Auction (April 16, 2009)

Vintage sportscards pioneer, Lew Lipset, has a T206 Ty Cobb back in his April 2009 Old Judge Auction. He indicates in his auction that he believes T206 Ty Cobb with Ty Cobb back were brought to the public in Ty Cobb Tobacco tin and were the only way they were distributed.



The following was the auction description:

T206 Ty Cobb with Ty Cobb back graded Authentic by SGC. One of the most prestigious and rarest cards in the hobby with about a dozen known. Considerably rarer than the legendary T206 Honus Wagner card. This card was originally found in a Ty Cobb Tobacco tin and it is my belief that is the way they were brought to the public, and were the only way they were distributed. The card has tiny spots of paper loss on the front including in the legend area at the bottom. The back has some light tobacco stains and a spot of paper loss beneath the word "World".

Final bid (with 10% premium): $51,879







The above Ty Cobb Tobacco Tin image is for reference only.



Then i found this info, saying otherwise:
Ty Cobb backs are the rarest in existence. There are only a dozen known, and are only seen with Ty Cobb Portrait with Red Background. Due to the low number in existence, some collectors are curious whether the card was actually issued. Some collectors don't even consider such back as part of the T206 set since all Ty Cobb backs (except one) has glossy coating on the front which are similar to T213-2 Coupon Tobacco series

[caramelcard]

strong price so far. nice card.