Would a database for PSA flips be beneficial to the hobby?

[the 'stache]

Doug, I'm not really a "graded card guy". As somebody that is new to vintage and pre-war, the graded cards I'd be getting would help me develop my eye, and at the same time, protect my cards until I've learned to store them properly. As my knowledge and comfort level in dealing with older cards increases, I will be less reliant on other people's opinions. Hell, I'll probably start cracking out the ones I have that are graded. Right now though, you could give me two cards out of their slabs, and tell me one was a PSA 5, the other a PSA 6, and I probably wouldn't be able to tell which was which.

I'm a kid learning to ride a bike. You and the majority of Net 54 members can ride around without even having to think about it, hopping up on the handlebars, doing tricks. I on the other hand have to learn the basics, not so I don't fall, but so I don't get burned spending $500 on a worthless piece of cardboard.

This idea for identifying the ranges of serial numbers as they apply to specific flips is meant to help protect people that are not at the same level of fluency you are. Maybe the list wouldn't end up being that useful. But if a forum member were able to look at the list once in a while, and immediately disqualify a fake because the serial number and flip didn't match, it might be worthwhile.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Doug, I'm not really a "graded card guy". As somebody that is new to vintage and pre-war, the graded cards I'd be getting would help me develop my eye, and at the same time, protect my cards until I've learned to store them properly. As my knowledge and comfort level in dealing with older cards increases, I will be less reliant on other people's opinions. Hell, I'll probably start cracking out the ones I have that are graded. Right now though, you could give me two cards out of their slabs, and tell me one was a PSA 5, the other a PSA 6, and I probably wouldn't be able to tell which was which.

I'm a kid learning to ride a bike. You and the majority of Net 54 members can ride around without even having to think about it, hopping up on the handlebars, doing tricks. I on the other hand have to learn the basics, not so I don't fall, but so I don't get burned spending $500 on a worthless piece of cardboard.

This idea for identifying the ranges of serial numbers as they apply to specific flips is meant to help protect people that are not at the same level of fluency you are. Maybe the list wouldn't end up being that useful. But if a forum member were able to look at the list once in a while, and immediately disqualify a fake because the serial number and flip didn't match, it might be worthwhile.

You missed my point.

My point is that the companies that would need to provide these services and / or information DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR CARDS except for how you and your cards are connected to your wallet when it comes to paying their fees.

And, I'm just a roadie for rock bands, I have over the last 40ish years of collecting learned how to get back on the bike after I fall off, but I'm not a guy who is in the mix when multi-thousand dollar cards are on the market.The rockstars may make lots of money, but they don't pay much of it to my kind.

Also, if you took those hypothetical PSA 5 and 6 cards and gave them back to the guy who got paid for his opinion, MY OPINION is that there is a 50 / 50 chance that he wouldn't be able to tell them apart, either.

Spending any money on opinions, is a waste. Go to card shows, go to card shops, hangout in chat rooms, read blogs, all of the info you need is readily available, and some of us old guys, They are all worthless pieces of cardboard, some of them just cost more than others.

The key to all of this is TO HAVE FUN.

If you study hard, and learn to be patient, you hopefully won't get burned when you spend $500 on a card. Like I did when I bought that Ryan rookie from the antique store around the corner from the Bayou Club in DC. Was it the smartest buy I ever made, definitely not, but it sure was a cool card, and it still looks nice (enough for me) in my 68 set.

Doug "never had the ability to grow enough facial hair for a real 'stache" Goodman

[timzcardz]

FYI, here's a thread on the flip variations.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=120512