Goldin Auctions Summer Spectacular Auction...featuring Kobe Bryant Memorabilia

[autograf]

It says KEY Bryant items.....maybe more is in there that's not as KEY as those (6) items.....

[peterose4hof]

Hmmm, strange how controversy seems to find certain folks time and again.

[wonkaticket]

I’m confused how are two people selling the same card?



Goldin has this same card as the premier lot #3 for the June 17th auction.



Yet the below site also has the same card for sale right now.



I can even add the card to my cart and check out, with free shipping I may add.



If I was to say buy the card from the above site then wouldn’t lot #3 in Goldin’s auction disappear?

This is also the same site and or guy who was in and banned in a single post correct?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=169551

So what gives are two people selling the same card at the same time?

Seems odd 7 days before an auction starts I can pull a BIN with another company on a major advertised lot.

Cheers,

John

[Leon]

John- I think the guy that was banned was a broker, for the most part, as I posted in post #3 of that thread (the edit).

[wonkaticket]

Got that much Leon, same webpage for the card above just wasn't going to assume it was the same guy but same webpage for sure.

[kengoldin]

The T206 Cobb with the Cobb back is locked up in the vault at Goldin Auctions, where it has been since approximately March 10th.

I hear its pretty rampant these days people trying to sell famous cards they do not own.

[wonkaticket]

Ken, noted however this certain site/seller has quite a few major cards up for sale, of which the owners have commented on the board that it was on the up and up.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-T206-Ho...item232ac91373


http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...Wagner+on+ebay

This is why I was confused it didn't seem as simple as a fraudster with a fake eBay or website. More like two folks both looking to sell the same card.

John

[BruceWayne]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

Hmmm, strange how controversy seems to find certain folks time and again.

Chris,

What exactly are you trying to say with this comment?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Just above the cobb in the website screen capture it says 1956 topps mickey mantle psa 9.

[BruceWayne]

Originally Posted by BruceWayne

Chris,

What exactly are you trying to say with this comment?

Chris "Bubba" Lamb,

Given you have posted on Network 54 elsewhere since I asked what you meant by your comment that "Hmmm, strange how controversy seems to find certain folks time and again," I will assume you have no intention of responding to my question and that your comment was directed at Ken Goldin....unless you were referring to Kobe Bryant which I doubt. In addition, given I created Game Used Universe and have monitored the forums there for almost 8 years, I have run across a number of people who sit behind a keyboard and make bold, unsubstantiated claims that have the potential to affect people's livelihoods. In fact, we created rules for posting on GUU to address that exact issue.

Since you have chosen to "boldly" make such a claim here from the obscurity of your keyboard, I will say that I have worked for Ken for a number of months now and I can tell you he has not done anything that can even remotely be considered questionable. It is just the opposite. In fact, we turned down a number of items for our current auction that I am confident a number of other auction houses would have run based on their prior history. In addition, in every instance that Ken has given me his word he has always come through. I also have never seen anyone work as hard as Ken and few people have his ability to promote an auction the way he does. Yes, he drives all of us to try to achieve perfection but I wouldn't want it any other way.

Lastly, I think the record of what I created with Game Used Universe to help eliminate the fraud and suspect activity in the game used memorabilia space speaks to the standards I adhere to as a person. While many claim to be "ethical" I always say you can judge the tree by the fruit it bears. Along those same lines, I say with great confidence that I think what Ken is doing with Goldin Auctions is not only good for the auction business, it is good for the hobby in general.

Happy to hear any additional comments you may have.

[MBMiller25]

Chris "Bubba" Lamb,

Given you have posted on Network 54 elsewhere since I asked what you meant by your comment that "Hmmm, strange how controversy seems to find certain folks time and again," I will assume you have no intention of responding to my question and that your comment was directed at Ken Goldin....unless you were referring to Kobe Bryant which I doubt. In addition, given I created Game Used Universe and have monitored the forums there for almost 8 years, I have run across a number of people who sit behind a keyboard and make bold, unsubstantiated claims that have the potential to affect people's livelihoods. In fact, we created rules for posting on GUU to address that exact issue.

Since you have chosen to "boldly" make such a claim here from the obscurity of your keyboard, I will say that I have worked for Ken for a number of months now and I can tell you he has not done anything that can even remotely be considered questionable. It is just the opposite. In fact, we turned down a number of items for our current auction that I am confident a number of other auction houses would have run based on their prior history. In addition, in every instance that Ken has given me his word he has always come through. I also have never seen anyone work as hard as Ken and few people have his ability to promote an auction the way he does. Yes, he drives all of us to try to achieve perfection but I wouldn't want it any other way.

Lastly, I think the record of what I created with Game Used Universe to help eliminate the fraud and suspect activity in the game used memorabilia space speaks to the standards I adhere to as a person. While many claim to be "ethical" I always say you can judge the tree by the fruit it bears. Along those same lines, I say with great confidence that I think what Ken is doing with Goldin Auctions is not only good for the auction business, it is good for the hobby in general.

Happy to hear any additional comments you may have.

Seriously? You seriously have to ask what he means by his comment?

[BruceWayne]

Originally Posted by MBMiller25

Seriously? You seriously have to ask what he means by his comment?

Yep. I seriously did ask what he meant. I think my post explains why.

[MBMiller25]

Yep. I seriously did ask what he meant. I think my post explains why.

Chris, I admire your steadfastness, and willingness to defend your employer and his moral fiber today. Ken is an advertiser with this board, and I believe he is an honest business person, but with that being said, you just can't ignore his past, and the past of Score Board Inc.

Again, I am completely impartial to this, before you respond, thinking I am bashing him, I am not, but please lets not assume everyone is going to just bury their heads in the sand to the previous history of Mr. Goldin.

[jerseygary]

I have done freelance work for Ken since January of this year and have found him to be one of the most honest and stand-up men in a hobby full of scum-bags. Maybe "Bubba" should stop being one of those internet tough guys and answer what he meant by his glib post. It really takes a big man to type and run, doesn't it. I don't like to get involved in the petty battles that erupt here from time to time, but I have to say that working for Ken Goldin has actually renewed my faith in a hobby that for me had lost it's fun back in the late 80's. I won't stand by and let some smart little guy write pithy little comments about a guy who's knowledge and integrity I have come to admire. Like Christopher said, I too have seen Ken refuse a number of items that most houses and grading services would wave through based on their history and owners.

I wish Bubba would get some internet muscles and write what he meant. Maybe Ken ripped him off in the past. Maybe he stole his girlfriend in high school or dinged his car door in the Shop Rite parking lot. Whatever it is, be a man and write it.