Spalding Ford Frick Ball - Not What It Seems

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

Can you kindly explain how the scenario you are presenting benefits any of the 3 friends you are supposing are running up the bids on each other? I'm really not understanding how that makes any sense. (no sarcasm to be read there - I really don't understand that scenario)

Easy.....u put a ball on ebay, u have someone u know place a bid to get the bidding going......u kinda have an idea what the ball will go for, next friend places a bid as well, so u have 2 separate IDs bidding to make it look like people are actually bidding on the item, however no one else is still bidding, and u want to sell the ball for a certain price, u place another bid at the end in hopes someone else who is not in on the scam also bids, if they do, u sold the ball for $400 rather than $100, cuz the middle bids are all dummy bids. If one of the friends wins the ball, no loss u can just cancel the transaction, like was done here. The transaction was conveniently cancelled.

[deebro041]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

u want to sell the ball for a certain price, u place another bid at the end in hopes someone else who is not in on the scam also bids, if they do, u sold the ball for $400 rather than $100, .

I HOPE I win the lottery!!

[gnaz01]

Good LORD!!! All this over a $300 ball??? I would hope that everyone has better things to do

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

Good LORD!!! All this over a $300 ball??? I would hope that everyone has better things to do

The price of the ball has ZERO to do with this situation IMO....this is the expert in the field, the go to guy for antique baseballs involved in some way with a seller of fake baseballs. What that relationship is is apparently going to be up for debate because Brandon refuses to out the scam artist.

[Leon]

Here is an outsiders opinion. First of all, please watch the F bombs, they and other x rated words will be edited out. As long as your name is by your post please say whatever you want to otherwise.

First of all I have a bit of hard time going all the way back for years and looking at things that happened then. For the most current situation I am going to stick to Brandon's side right now, from what I have read. I can't get around the fact a very respected board member, and someone who is always helping people and coming out with an important book, is going to throw it all away over a $300 ball. It would be analogous to me throwing away what credibility I have built over my time in the hobby on a $300 fake type card. I have cards I have probably paid that much tax on. If it came to my cred I would easily give anyone $500 to not tarnish it. I think Brandon would probably do the same thing. I can't explain every single bid from the last 2-3 yrs but I just fall on the side of Bandon at this point. Just my 2 cents.....

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Leon

I can't get around the fact a very respected board member, and someone who is always helping people and coming out with an important book, is going to throw it all away over a $300 ball.

Eloquence aside, THIS is the point I was trying to derive at. Sorry Dan, didn't mean to imply otherwise, it has been a LOOOOOOONG work week for me

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by Leon

Here is an outsiders opinion. First of all, please watch the F bombs, they and other x rated words will be edited out. As long as your name is by your post please say whatever you want to otherwise.

First of all I have a bit of hard time going all the way back for years and looking at things that happened then. For the most current situation I am going to stick to Brandon's side right now, from what I have read. I can't get around the fact a very respected board member, and someone who is always helping people and coming out with an important book, is going to throw it all away over a $300 ball. It would be analogous to me throwing away what credibility I have built over my time in the hobby on a $300 fake type card. I have cards I have probably paid that much tax on. If it came to my cred I would easily give anyone $500 to not tarnish it. I think Brandon would probably do the same thing. I can't explain every single bid from the last 2-3 yrs but I just fall on the side of Bandon at this point. Just my 2 cents.....

I dont think I can agree more with what Leon said here.

If there was a pattern of behavior such as the one described in this thread then I think the witch hunt should continue but this seems like nothing more than a mistake/misunderstanding/whatever. Who hasnt made these types of errors at one time or another? Let it go guys. Let it go.