OT: Most Underachieving Team ?

[sycks22]

I'll give you an entire decade. 1990's Braves. Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Avery, Naegle. Amazing staff and only 1 title to show for it. Didn't they make 15 straight playoffs?

[EvilKing00]

Originally Posted by sycks22

I'll give you an entire decade. 1990's Braves. Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Avery, Naegle. Amazing staff and only 1 title to show for it. Didn't they make 15 straight playoffs?

As a met fan, looking at ATL I don't think they Underachied, like u said the won the division almost every year for over a decade.

[CMIZ5290]

The first year (1990) of the Braves run gets my vote. Glavine's first couple of years in the bigs were terrible, Avery was only 19 years old fresh out of high school, and the Braves did not have Maddox then. Take a look at their starting lineup, a bunch of real young players or no names. Their closer was Alejandro Pena who every one thought had been washed up....

[TUM301]

2011, 2012 Boston Red Sox. from Sept 2011 thru the 2012 season they were around 77-113 with a payroll of 165+ million. Thank God Magic and the Dodgers came along and took Beckett and Crawford off their hands.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by sycks22

I'll give you an entire decade. 1990's Braves. Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Avery, Naegle. Amazing staff and only 1 title to show for it. Didn't they make 15 straight playoffs?

I like the choice of the Braves. Probably the best starting piching for a sustained period. They did get to 5 World Series though, even if they only won one of them. They always seemed to have one critical moment where they could have won if only they made this critical play. But they didn't.

Like Lonnie Smith pausing at second base and then never scoring.

[sycks22]

Originally Posted by Sean

I like the choice of the Braves. Probably the best starting piching for a sustained period. They did get to 5 World Series though, even if they only won one of them. They always seemed to have one critical moment where they could have won if only they made this critical play. But they didn't.

Like Lonnie Smith pausing at second base and then never scoring.

That Lonnie Smith play came against my Twins in '91. Knoblauch saved the series with that fake at 2nd. Also loved when Hrbek pulled Gant off of the bag.

[Sean]

Pete, do you also remember in game one when a pop foul landed on Selig's daughter? Right on her head. I know I shouldn't laugh at someone's pain.

[Sean]

Hey Pete, what happens if Lonnie scores?
Bottom of the 8th,with runners on first and third, Cox intentionally walks Kirby and Hrbek lines into a DP. If instead of a tie game, the Braves would have led 1-0, and no way do they walk Kirby with 2nd base open. So Kirby bats, and maybe the Twins tie or go ahead.
We'll never know, but it is possible that even if Smith scores the Braves don't win.

[glchen]

That Seattle team that won the most games but couldn't close the deal in the post season.

[Sean]

Yes, the 2001 Mariners- 116 wins, but they didn't even make it to the Series.